- cross-posted to:
- climate@slrpnk.net
- cross-posted to:
- climate@slrpnk.net
Tougher laws are said to inspire clandestine attacks on the “property and machinery” of the fossil fuel economy.
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I mean yeah, if protesting peacefully is also gonna be illegal, you might aswell get some real work done.
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable.
Nah. There’s more to it than just this nicely sounding sentence
Ok, what is it then?
If the police is though on peaceful protestors they’ll turn into violent protestors.
it’s funny because last month I’ve read Malm’s how to blow up a pipeline a book where, considering that peaceful actions doesn’t work he calls for violent protest regarding climate.
I think that’s the spirit of the text, but he’s very careful not to actually call for violent protest. Instead, he repeatedly just says that it should be considered for obvious reasons. The text has a “won’t someone rid me of this meddlesome priest” effect. Regardless, he makes a compelling argument and the violence he considers is purely against property and not people so, unless you’re a property fetishist, the degree of violence being considered is nothing compared to the violence of climate change.
Indeed, this is an important point, when talking about violence, he talks mostly about attacking equipement owned by fossilf-fuel companies so mostly victimless violence not about performing a Luigi Mangione
Now that you mentioned it, here is a link for the book and the audiobook
Near-dupe that was also posted today: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/mar/08/a-new-phase-why-climate-activists-are-turning-to-sabotage-instead-of-protest
When you criminalise protesting only criminals will protest.
I was pleasantly suprised it wasn’t the EU, rather UK. I mean sucks for the UK protesters but still glad it aint us.
I’m afraid this is not only for the UK
In Germany, France, Italy, Sweden, the Netherlands and the UK, authorities have responded to climate protests with mass arrests, the passing of draconian new laws, the imposing of severe sentences for non-violent protests and the labelling of activists as hooligans, saboteurs or eco-terrorists. the Guardian, Oct 2023
You might want to check out this report from Climate Rights International, Sep 2024. This one is not only talking about europe.
“Democratic” is a relative term.
Of course. In this case, it refers to representative democracies and it is totally debatable how democratic they are.
Direct democracy on the other hand, is democratic. There is no question about that, no matter if one likes it or not.
