I know someone that thinks tankies are allies against American imperialism, and they say that any movement to the left is better than capitalism, even if it’s Russia or CCP branded leftism. They say that nothing that Russia or CCP has done is worse than what American imperialism. This all came up after I mentioned the tankie triad, and they said they were subscribed to multiple communities on there and didn’t disagree with what they were seeing on there. Let me know if there’s a better place to ask or if there’s any other threads or resources I should refer them to. I will be forwarding this thread to them, so your help would be greatly appreciated.
This person thinks that Russia isn’t capitalistic and is somehow “left”, kinda sounds like they’re already a tankie. It’s going to be almost impossible to talk them out of that.
I desperately want to try, so any help would be appreciated.
They said since I wasn’t able to explain to them what was wrong with the ideology and the moderation on those instances to their liking, they didn’t see any problem.
Find out what evidence they would accept that their view is wrong.
Then deliver.
Unfortunately, there’s a chance they’ll move the goalpost at that point. Then you’ll know that reasoning isn’t the solution.
They said they didn’t see the moderation abuse I was purporting for one, and they weren’t just going to take my word for it.
This is one of those cases where you can’t use logic to talk someone out of a position they didn’t use logic to get into, it’s probably going to take an emotional appeal. Also try not to be confrontational, attacking their beliefs might just cause them to get defensive and shut down processing what you say.