My impression is that contrary to the headline, this isn’t a young vs old thing, but a follows-the-news vs doesn’t-follow-news thing

  • yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works
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    And you think doing the exact same thing over and over is “trying”?

    We’ve been doing things to try to change the system, but mainstream Dems, white liberals, tend to call us radical criminals, terrorists, and damaging to progress. When we try we get shot in the back. When we try we get anonymously reported by someone ‘that agrees with our ideals but not our actions’.

    So hopefully now that you people will be suffering too, you might not stab us in the back this time when things get a little uncomfy for white liberals.

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      I think coming at it from the angle of “doing the same thing over and over” is incredibly disingenuous.

      Voter participation is abysmally low. Local elections in my area have a turnout of 10%. And that’s a high. If people actually showed up, that’d be something different.

      Instead of pushing “do nothing and hope things change”, which is what we’ve been doing for decades, maybe we should have change and show the fuck up.

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        Voter participation is low because every time people do turn out, they’re reminded there are no politicians that will work for the workers.

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          People haven’t turned out. Voter participation is abyssmal. Just because you personally have not seen universal and positive change from your own vote immediately does not mean it can never ever work.

          Voter participation is low because dipshits like you keep saying “See? Your life hasn’t irrevocably changed because of this one election! There’s no point in doing the absolute bare minimum! Better to sit at home and complain about how everything is broken and hope that someone else does something radical and meaningful about it!”

          Maybe stop treating everything like a winner-take-all competition and realize that we won’t see effective long term change except through repeated concerted effort where you keep showing up. Even if you see setbacks. We might actually achieve something.

          But I guess if you’d rather give up because you haven’t gotten what you want immediately, that’s entirely up to you.

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            You will never get more than the 65% turn out of 2020. You just won’t. Because when the Dems win, it’s never enough. You never get enough, you never have enough, but the Republicans always have enough to get their legislation through, even as a minority.

            Stop making excuses for oligarchs. It’s pathetic.