UPDATE: The transphobe Ada has been defending says they misgender all trans women/NBs on Blahaj who are strangers - Blåhaj Lemmy
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Further information on the situation with the transphobia: Abigail has repeatedly misgendered me and defended her choice by saying she chooses to refer to all people of unknown gender as male. > Hey, Abigail here. I just want people to know the reason this person got banned is likely because of a deleted comment not included in that thread. OP called me ~~autistic ~~ mentally unwell for not liking politics. THAT kind of behavior is not acceptable on lemmy.blahaj.zone, so I reported the comment and let Ada handle it. Ada tried in good faith to reason with OP but it was clear they just wanted to fight. So yeah, they got banned. Ada’s a fantastic lady who’s been great at keeping the trolls at bay. > Edit: and the bit about me misgendering them is also wrong. Gender didn’t come into play until after I had left the conversation. English default on the internet is male for strangers. Source: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/2319669 [https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/2319669] WRT the statement that I accused them of autism for not liking politics, further info is available here: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/2319669 [https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/2319669] https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/2320815 [https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/2320815] https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/2321026 [https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/2321026]
      • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        4·
        1 year ago

        “Collective consciousness” isn’t a gender, but if it were you should demonstrate your telepathy to some scientists. Maybe use those little cards with shapes on them.

        • DroneRights [it/its]@lemm.eeOPEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          Oh, collective consciousness isn’t a gender, but drinking beer and watching sports is? Or maybe we’ll go to the biological essentialists and ask if a set of chromosomes is a gender. Or we could look at modern feminist theory and check whether performing for the patriarchy is a gender. Or we could go to the evolutionary anthropologists and ask if the social conditions resultant from half the population getting pregnant is a gender.

          EVERY gender identity is silly. You are only denying my right to have my gender identity because you’re a transphobe and a sexist who likes some genders more than others due to familiarity.

          • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
            2·
            1 year ago

            Either this is a conservative (/terf [i.e. conservative]) troll in poor taste or, well, I can’t really speculate on the alternative. The basic assertion of “transgender ideology” is that gender is a social performance and therefore not anchored to reproduction, chromosomes, etc.

            “Produces fertile sperm” isn’t itself a social performance, it’s a biological function, which is in the domain of sex. Perhaps trans men would like to do this as most cis men do, but to say that it is a part of the gender (rather than a common feature of the sex) would be the same as asserting that they are not trans men.

            “Is part of a collective consciousness” isn’t itself a social performance, it’s a biological function. Like how a trans man can neither (at the moment) perform the biological function nor the social role of fertilizing an egg, a human cannot perform the biological function of being in a collective consciousness and therefore cannot perform any such social role.

            In short:

            Oh, collective consciousness isn’t a gender, but drinking beer and watching sports is?

            Close enough, yeah, though I’d encourage men both cis and trans to think of themselves as more than that (and I personally don’t do either)

            • Harrison [He/Him]@ttrpg.networkEnglish
              5·
              1 year ago

              Yeah, it turns out that there is a line at which I’m willing to buy into exclusionary biological essentialism, and that line is people asserting they’re part of a hive-mind.

            • DroneRights [it/its]@lemm.eeOPEnglish
              1·
              1 year ago

              “Is part of a collective consciousness” isn’t itself a social performance, it’s a biological function

              I disagree. Egregoric identity is social, not biological. Now, plenty of dronegender people wish that this was Starcraft and we could use psychic powers to communicate, but since that’s not the world we live in, we use a social mechanism to create a swarm mind, as does every other swarm animal. Ants communicate using pheromones to direct their society through consenses. Bees use dance. And those of us confined to human bodies use speech. That’s this world. I assure you, we’re just as upset as you that we don’t live in a world of psychic telepathy and ESP, but you have to get used to the real world and get used to accepting us as we exist in the real world. Unless you’re interested in becoming an antirealist, but I think you’d be even more hostile to that idea. You have to pick one: reality or fantasy. You can’t choose to live in reality and then hold people to the standards of fantasy.

              • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                5·
                1 year ago

                “Communicating socially” isn’t limited to one gender or sex within a species. Bees and ants both male and female communicate with each other, though adult queen bees are a little limited in terms of movement, so I assume they rely on more idiosyncratic signals.

                But “I talk/write/gesture” is not a gender and also very much not what you introduced your gimmick as. At first it was about sharing a mind or something. If I believed you weren’t a troll, I’d say that you took one of the worst possible lessons from neoliberal alienation by seeing undermined human capacity and making a xenogender out of it (thereby opposing its universality).

                • DroneRights [it/its]@lemm.eeOPEnglish
                  1·
                  1 year ago

                  Obviously, the gender identity of a bee is different to the gender identity of a human, regardless of chromosomes or gametes. Gender identity is a performance, and bees and humans are putting on different shows. Drones are putting on a show that creates a socially constructed hivemind, an egregoric swarm.

                  Do you really want to keep debating my gender identity with me? Are you really continuing to deny that I’m allowed to identify as my preferred gender?

                  • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                    5·
                    1 year ago

                    “Egregoric” is a fun word that I’ll mention to a friend of mine who likes writing fantasy, but it does not describe bees and neither does “hivemind,” which suggests many beings with one mind (as you seemingly did as well in your first comment here). But you are missing that the act of communicating is something that all healthy bees do and all healthy humans do. Genders as social constructions only make sense in the context of genders with contrary traits. No healthy human doesn’t communicate. I strongly suggest communicating with more people in order to learn that it’s something everyone does. Or you drop the shitty terf bit.

                    Always with radlibs there’s this incredulous shit about not being “allowed” to do this or that. No, I don’t have the power to forbid you from doing anything and have held no pretense that anything else was the case. I am merely allowed to criticize conservatives trying to reinvent their “transracial” “attack helicopter” bits.