• Daniel Quinn@lemmy.ca
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    1 day ago

    A lot of people are going to tell you that “it’s the algorithm”, and there’s some truth to that, but honestly I think it’s a lot more straightforward:

    The boomers got everything, and when they burned through that, they burned through the millennials’ share too. If you’re growing up a zoomer, you’re looking around at a world literally on fire, and the emergence of what is effectively feudalism as the dominant world religion economic system. You’ll never own a home, because literally everything is rented now. You’re probably working 2 jobs, though they barely qualify for that word because there’s zero security and you’re carrying all the risk.

    You’re watching a literal genocide playing out on your phone, while the outgoing Trudeau proudly declares himself a Zionist, and literally everything is expensive, especially food.

    Now, consider the political climate:

    • The NDP (and to a greater extent, the entire global left) is toothless and obsessing over identity politics, and if you tell your friends you’re going to vote for them you’re either laughed at or told you’re “wasting” your vote.
    • The Liberals are refusing to recognise the dire state of the economy and the fear & frustration you have. Instead they go on TV and say that the problem with the economy is “vibes” and that voting for Conservatives means you hate gay people.
    • The Conservatives acknowledge that fear and frustration. They don’t gaslight you with claims that “the stocks are up, so the economy is fine”. No, they cast blame: “Trudeau did this. He torched the economy for ‘wokeism’. He put on silly costumes with foreign dignitaries while you had to move back in with your parents. He did this. Him, and those immigrants, and if you vote for us, we’ll get rid of all of that”.

    They’ve got the best story, and their opposition is either inept or oblivious. If they hadn’t made the mistake of cozying up to Trump, they’d be a shoe-in for the next election.

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      The NDP (and to a greater extent, the entire global left) is toothless and obsessing over identity politics,

      They’re not though. The NDP has concrete policies about affordability, the economy and the environment, and also advocates for minorities to be treated fairly. Whereas the Conservatives don’t have any plans except to stir up resentment and hatred.

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      13 hours ago

      So who tells a tale that’s the strongest of all? The ones who cast blame and make others feel small. And if they weren’t friends with a man named Old Trump, They’d be winning not whining about current slumps.

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      24 hours ago

      and to a greater extent, the entire global left

      Podemos in Spain has been successful, Mexico has a leftist president, Chile’s Broad Front was born from student protests in 2011, Brazil has a leftist president and governing party. The NFP in France is the opposition.

      You’ll never own a home

      Gen Z has some of the highest home ownership rates given their age:

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/katherinehamilton/2023/04/21/gen-z-ahead-of-millennials-and-their-parents-in-owning-their-own-homes

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        I think I saw that, but I have to take it with a grain of salt. Haven’t there been other studies showing gen Z has been late to a lot of milestones?

        One thing this could be is the minority of young people that have a house basically supplied by their parents, because of high inequality.

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          The oldest Gen Zer is what? 27? What milestones are they late to? Especially if they’re early to home ownership.

          Because they seem to be earlier to kids than millennials were, based on what I’ve heard, and marriage just seems to be a fundamentally different thing to many people born after GenX.

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            Well, there’s also first job, moving out to a rental and getting into a serious career (the hustling from job to job is a killer for anyone without nepotism on their side). You’re right that there’s cultural changes in the picture too, though.

            Because they seem to be earlier to kids than millennials were, based on what I’ve heard,

            It looks like average age of a new mother has gone up continuously at least in the US, actually. Teen moms are a big part of it, though, which brings up the the mean vs. median thing again.

            Even if the data on housing is correct, are the non-homeowners closer or further from owning? The typical real wage has gone down, and I see little evidence that’s concentrated towards older individuals like it would have to be to not hit gen Z. Anecdotally, in my family the last generation had an easier time. It’s almost painful adjusting their old starting wages for inflation.

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      Not to mention the right offers a refuge for straight young men because nobody else is speaking to them.

      If you’re not pure enough you’re toxic and part of the patriarchy. LGBTQIA2SBIPOC or bust.

      Where do you go? Well turns out there are plenty of groups willing to accept you.

      Come be an alpha bro. You just need to hit the gym, find God, pick up a gun and invest in crypto.

      Then you won’t be lonely anymore.

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        Is nobody else speaking to them? I think nobody else is coddling them. Like, leftist women aren’t saying, “I won’t date you unless you cut your dick off.” But they are saying, “I won’t date you unless you do at least 10% of the housework.” I think the bar for acceptance among the left is pathetically low.

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        20 hours ago

        You know, I’ve never felt pushed out of the left. There’s little draw for people not affected by minority issues, but that’s it. The active rejection of “wokeism” feels like it’s coming from somewhere else.