• bleistift2@sopuli.xyz
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    3 days ago

    Americans: WE DON’T WANT ID! IT GIVES THE GOVERNMENT TOO MUCH POWER!!

    Also Americans:

    • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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      Don’t get it twisted, we don’t want to have to use the stupid social security card as ID, either. As a matter of fact, if you have one that’s old enough it says “For Social Security and Tax Purposes – Not For Identification” right on it.

      …But every organization in the country, including the government, now uses your SSN and SSN card as a form of identification anyway, and will randomly demand to see the card itself as “proof.”

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        Canada went the opposite direction - it is now impossible to get an SIN (SSN equivalent), and if you forget it, you have to go to a government office for them to print out a sheet on standard letter sized paper that clearly states to memorise and destroy it.

        • anguo@lemmy.ca
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          But then it appears on all my tax documents that I’m supposed to keep.

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            Shh, those are supposed to be stored in a safe/safety deposit box, only to be looked at when verifying your identity with the government.

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          I mean this system makes so much more sense imho.

          A random string of 9 numbers is hardly ID.

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        2 days ago

        Logic doesn’t matter here. The guy you’re responding to just wants to grab at low hanging fruit as a “zing” to Americans.

        Come on you can do better.

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      Yeah but a lot of those americans who don’t want a simple national ID system are idiots. Some of them are delusional “it’s a sign of the beast!!!” people who should be put in a camp.

      • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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        …And possibly appropriately, those types of people will take your national ID system precisely as the overture to putting them in said camp in the first place.

        For the record I’m not against a universal ID, but given that your de facto ID is your driver’s license and that’s explicitly handled by the states anyhow, I find any actual implementation unlikely.

        Furthermore, you can also get a US passport card which acts as a government backed nationwide ID already.