This is why democrats lost. They don’t care what their base wants.
The republicans fear their base, the democrats loathe their base.
Republicans definitely loathe their base
Maybe, but the fear prevents them from expressing as much; they regularly change their positions and messaging to match whatever the rabid hogs that make up the core of their base are baying for.
Meanwhile democrats see it as a virtue to stand up to their base. West Wing has done irreparable damage to their brains.
they fear and loath them.
that because republicans will stop voting for them in a hearbeat; while democrats will also vote blue no matter who … and what.
Dems literally just lost because their base didn’t show up what are you talking about?
they lost the presidential election, we still have mostly the same dems as before
we still have mostly the same dems as before
What does that have to do with Dems always voting blue when they clearly didn’t? To remind you what your point was since you seem to have forgotten:
democrats will also vote blue no matter who … and what.
it’s simple: they either vote blue or they don’t vote
Yes and not voting blue is the antithesis of:
vot[ing] blue no matter who
But also, Republicans vote Red or don’t vote. It’s in the name. You keep making meaningless points.
Apparently ‘embrace patriotism’ an ‘removing too left wing elements’ is what they base want.
That’s their plan.Democrats absolutely do care what their base wants, unlike the Republicans, but yes this sort of talk and action are why the DNC lost. Being the lesser evil very unfortunately wasn’t enough.
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It doesn’t help that Schumer’s term goes on until 2029 so the only way to primary him is to issue a recall. It’s going to be a rough decade.
The only way to primary him. Not the only way to be rid of him, though.
I think I’m their base. I don’t want genocide. I do want everyone to be happy and healthy and educated with healthcare and clean air. People should be able to afford things without working themselves to death.
I do not feel represented.
Then maybe you should read the vote counts on most of the important legislation passed in the last 3 decades? Because I assure you that you absolutely are represented.
The worst score the DNC would have with your list would be handling Israel and Gaza but our guy was swearing at Netanyahu over the phone, building a pier to distribute aid, and withholding weapons shipments. The new guy, who replaced our guy, has bragged about fulfilling the delayed shipments, is backing a full and complete ethnic cleansing of Gaza.
So, I mean, hands down no competition. Remove Republicans at all costs. ALL COSTS.
America’s so stupid this man is considered left.
Radical left 🤣
Someone asked me how much I liked Comrade Chuck. I could only blink
He is not considered left by actual leftist Americans. We know he’s a corporate shill.
We all consider him a centrist democrat, as many of the oldest are. Some call them “the old guard.”
His job is to keep the left pro-genocide?
Lord, I hate establishment Dems.
I don’t think you’ve been paying much attention then. Both parties have the same masters.
I’m not sure I follow. Did you mean to reply to a different comment?
Just in case: “I hate establishment Dems.” =/= “I like Republicans.” I have enough disdain in my heart for both. The post is about an establishment Dem, so that’s what my comment was about too. I was directly replying to Chuck’s remarks that “(his) job is to keep the left pro-Israel.”
the same megadonors, dems just have more obvious right supporters, the DInos. im betting at least the DNC was afraid that trumps gop was getting massively more donations than The DNC, so they probably made deals and a “attempt to win the eleciton”
I strongly believe, as I always have, that there is a solution to these problems that doesn’t involve choosing between Palestinian Lives or Israeli Lives.
Israel is an aggressor, even if they were initially attacked first, and it seeks to benefit from war and violence, and this needs to be stopped, but that statement in itself is not anti-israel nor is any pro-israeli stance necessarily pro-genocide. The most pro-Israeli action I can think of is forcefully removing Netanyahu from power thereby averting a coup as he should not be eligible to rule given his many crimes.
Also, I hope we primary the fuck out of Chuck Schumer in 2029 (or even recall his ass) and that Democrats win lots of seats in the next election.
The problem is that when politicians like Chuck Schumer say “pro-Israel” what they mean is “I am in favor of the conflict continuing,” if you read in-between the lines. He is not taking the same humanistic approach you are. I really can’t emphasize enough how much Netanyahu and Israeli Jews writ large want the conflict to not only continue but to escalate (in case it needs to be said, no not all Jews, just specifically the ones benefiting from and perpetuating Israel’s ethno-nationalism, and who also happen to own most of the legal and political power in Israel). That is to say, he enjoys massive support in his own country. Virtually the only major power that is backing them on this is the US. Everywhere else, Netanyahu is internationally recognized as a WANTED war criminal.
Moreover, I take issue with the notion that Israel is simply retaliating against some unprovoked terror attack. October 7th didn’t just, like, happen in a vacuum. I could make comparisons to 9/11 and post-9/11 America–I wouldn’t be the first to compare these things and it isn’t a perfect comparison by any means–but a history lesson is perhaps outside the scope of a comment like this.
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Anyone got a non-paywalled source for this? Chucky’s not usually this mask-off
Thanks for the ladder @Gem
President Trump accused him of being “a Palestinian” who was “not Jewish anymore.” A few days later, Schumer decided to postpone his book tour after joining Republicans to support a stopgap spending bill to avoid a government shutdown
And they say women are too emotional to be in office 🙄
A Jew stands up for his people regardless of the cost, and regardless of the politics of it. On this, Schumer has acquitted himself bravely.
So move to Israel if you want to stand up for them. They’ll give you land.
Must be tricky getting lefties to support a fascist religious ethno-state responsible for killing 50000 children in the past year alone.
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Can start by polluting the narrative by trying to draw similarities between Israel’s plight… and Ukraines.
Its a very straight line. The US supports Israel. The US supports Ukraine. Ergo, Israel = Ukraine. Also, Palestinian = Russian.
Unless the President changes, at which point Israel = Russia and Palestine = Ukraine. Oh, no wait. Pete Hegseth is getting dragged on TV and my donors are mad at me for suggesting we pull money out of the arms export industry. Maybe Ukraine is good aktuly? Maybe we just stop talking about Ukraine entirely? Is there any way we can pivot to blaming China and kicking off a shooting war in the Pacific?
Poor Zelensky doesn’t understand that Israel doesn’t give a mortal fuck about them and their struggle.
Zelenskyy doesn’t get that Slav ranks below cockroach and above Arab in the western white nationalist lexicon. He’s expendable on a good day.
If he was serious about that aim, wouldn’t he be trying to stop the Palestinian genocide? That’s a big factor in why so many people no longer support Israel. Bombing hospitals and daycares is never going to be popular with “your” base, Chuck.
The whole “point” of the Zionist project is to consolidate and expand the Israeli state. The plan has always been to erase Palestine. Stopping the genocide is, in essence, anti-Isarel.
If he was serious about that aim, wouldn’t he be trying to stop the Palestinian genocide?
Might as well ask why the German-American Bund wasn’t trying to stop the Nazi genocide.
My guy hates Arabs. He hates Muslims. He hates them so much that he wants them wiped off he face of the earth.
If he’s such a hater, why’s he your guy?
Cause I heard we needed him to Beat Trump
TBF there were many attempts to create lasting peace by the DNC. It’s not like they showed up in the morning, got on the phone with Netanyahu, and said some shit like “yeah have you considered making them dig the pits for you?”
What the fuck would he know about “the left”
How to order a CIA hit on them
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Money talks. According to Open Secrets he received $1,727,974 from pro-Israel lobbyists
https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=Q05&recipdetail=S
Only america calls it lobbying, for the rest of the word its known as corruption.
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My sole job as an elected representative is socially engineering acceptance for a foreign population.
I don’t think this is the flex he thinks it is.
I think it is, it’s a flex that his fellow dem senators will not call for his resignation no matter how openly vile he is about it, and they’re keeping pretty quiet right now letting the house say it instead.
like fetterman, they know they are safe until '28, by then they already did enough damage and made bank from it.
chuck schumer: im trying to be a comedian, like my extended family member AMy, try
Has he tried convincing Netentahu to not do a genocide? That’d be a lot easier than convincing a bunch of folks that they should support a genocide
You’d think that, but it doesn’t seem to be the case.
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the Oct 7 attacks were brutal, and demanded a response
The response it demanded was to for Israel to end it’s brutal oppression of Palestinians: end the bombings, end the blockade, end the land theft end the murders, end the kidnapping and release the thousands of Palestinian detainees.
many would suggest it was a caluclated move by Russia,
Many insane BlueAnon conspiracy theorists who have been trained to reflexively blame all the world’s ills on Russia.
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Israel does it all the time.
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takes like this are the reason why schumer is going to keep this job until he decides to retire or start working for aipac
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Yes, actually. That’s basically the entire Biden administration time period.
Withheld military aid, funding aid to Palestinians, threatening to stop protecting them from the UN were all tactics used to make Netanyahu negotiate, but clearly it was always Netanyahu’s plan to waste time and draw things out until the Single-State backing Trump admin could take power.
TBH I think it would have been better to just forcefully remove Netanyahu from power under the guise of protecting Israel from a coup.
Keeping the world pro Isreal should really be Benjamin Netanyahu’s job. Obviously he’s not doing that job though.
Listen we, the Democrats, are pro insider trading and baby killing. If you have a problem with blowing up a hospital full of poor people, then this just isn’t the party for you. Fuck you.
If you don’t like it, go vote for the other party. That also supports: blowing up hospitals full of poor people, insider trading and baby killing.
Also, fuck you.
For establishment dems sticking with israel was always more important to them than beating trump, and chucky still cares more about israel than helping americans oppose trump’s policies. The dem establishment is such a thorough failure that I hope it goes extinct
thats probably why they strung along trumps case, they never were going to convict him, it made good propaganda for keeping the funding for israel(trump was thier ticket to get continually funded by billionares of both parties, and they more than likely made deals behind the scenes on what they will vote on), and the donations both parties. and people were pointing out how the courts move extremely slowly for trump and extremely fast against luigi.
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This is why Dems struggle, despite all this bullshit because the leadership is these ancient stupid fucks.
I hate chuck
I hate Netanyahu
I hate the genocide to human trafficking pipeline they have going on.
like what the fuck is that
Dems recently had a perfect test of whether or not their better nature could overcome their fecklessness. They failed.
