• MochiGoesMeow@lemmy.zip
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    Damn bros. This makes me sad on a Friday. We used to be besties.

    Eh fuck governments, I’ll always love my Canadian bros.

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      Just like I have nothing against Chinese or Russian citizens, I hope others will be able to separate us from our fascist government.

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        Unfortunately the tools of statecraft aren’t all that granular. To make the Trump regime suffer, many Americans will suffer even if they don’t support Trump.

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          Yes, it’s unavoidable that we all have to suffer because of his regime. Same deal with the Russian sanctions.

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    He is right and I hope he and his party will win the election easily.

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    I wonder if this and others will force US rebuilding efforts to include governmental reform if and when Trump is out. No amount of Obamas can reassure people the US isn’t just going to flip out the left time it changes hands again.

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      Sadly i don’t think that will happen unless there is a substantial degradation of the quality of life in red states. The failure and the cause needs to be so mind numbingly apparently to even the most entrenched Trump supporter that they actually force their representative to join in on real reform. Unfortunately if we do have another election and control switches it’s most likely going to still have 40% or more of the voting population have political blindness. Farmers will lose their farms and still vote Republican.

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      You fix your mess internally, do something to deal with your government besides complain… In the other western countries we are starting to adjust to the US no longer being part of the club… act before we get used to that concept.

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      Step one is to secede from the US. You aren’t actually going to be part of Canada, but an EU style arrangement in North America could happen.

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      Elect progressives, enact progressive policies and then apply i guess! I’d be happy to have states aligned with our values join canada

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      You aren’t like us and we don’t want you, harsh but for the best

      Imagine californians buying up all of Vancouver Island for example. No thanks

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      We really dont want your states. We dont like American culture. Its led to whatever the fuck you have going on down there.

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    those are words of a politician. This is what “sells” today. We’ll need to see very specific actions to back it up. Thus far most politicians shown lack of spine and would turn on a dime at first opportunity. Canada could’ve been “divorced” from US for over a decade now when Cretien hinted at desire to move in that direction… but nope, here we are overdependant on US and thumping our chests “never again”.

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      We’ve always known our growing interdependence is a risk, but there’s been many benefits and decades of good experience. Occasionally, the US has done things that have slowed this progression and has made many of us wary while some (especially business leaders in sectors such as oils and gas) insisting it’s silly paranoia.
      For politicians to make such a major move, there has to be a strong interest or concern amongst electorate. In a matter of weeks, Trump obliterated the idea that this is silly paranoia, and there’s a strong sense of halt! Fuck no! reverse, hard! So I think it is completely different this time.

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        lets hope it “sticks”. Any class in economics say “diversify your portfolio”, Canada needs just that. 10% hit is less than 90% hit if you’re dealing with multiple partners.

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    Now think of all the jobs to secure a massive border that didn’t need to be guarded for generations!

    /s

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        Dudes said nothing but the complete opposite the entire time he’s been leader of the opposition. Bring jobs to Canada, Canada first, ect. This is made up bullshit that he would “sell out” anything.

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                Canada needs to do some things like the US, there’s no getting around it.

                Getting more resources out of the ground, across the country, and to trade partners is critical. It always has been, and the liberals have opposed this for decades.

                The things Mark has done so far that people seem to like are mostly things the opposition has been saying for several years.

                Interprovincial trade barriers? Gone. Pipeline across the country? Probably will not happen with the liberals. Carbon Tax? Well, it’s being hidden somewhere else. I could go on.

                There’s no reason the think the last ten years of complete stagnation, scandals and lies will not continue especially given a majority of the party remains the same.

                I’m more concerned about Carneys global elitist buddy’s at WEF and blackrock then I am about anything Pierre has talked about.

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                  No, we don’t need to do like the us. Unless you want fascist. Getting rid of interprovincial trade barriers is good. Pipeline across the country? Not great. The carbon tax was good. The last 10 years weren’t complete stagnation, scandals and lies, at least not more than harpers reign. I’m more concerned about Pierre’s association and trumpism than carneys WEF contacts

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      There is no liberal party, there is no ndp.

      There is you, the frog, and the scorpion, the conservative party. And every election the scorpion will ask you to let it ride across the river on your back.

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          Except liberals don’t go out of their way to attack law abiding citizens by taking their property? Wanting Pierre to be elected so you can have moar guns is a stupid reason to elect him. I too have firearms and I’m not stupid enough to vote for pp

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            Except liberals don’t go out of their way to attach law abiding citizens by taking their property?

            How can you be a PAL/RPAL holder and even say that? We’ve all gone through the legal process of obtaining our licenses and endure the daily background checks, you of all people should know that we aren’t the ones contributing to the vast increase in firearm related crime.

            So yes, they are attacking law abiding citizens.

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              How can you be a PAL/RPAL holder and even say that? We’ve all gone through the legal process of obtaining our licenses and endure the daily background checks, you of all people should know that we aren’t the ones contributing to the vast increase in firearm related crime.

              Because guns aren’t a right, they are a privilege, being a law abiding citizen in this regard means… abiding by the laws? Which mean following the laws? I don’t like the way it was done. I know we don’t contribute to crimes but whatever, I’m not under attack, neither are you. Voting for Pierre just for guns is stupid