Bike Friday, known for its folding bicycles, has announced the All-Day, an electric bike that weighs just 33 pounds and folds in 20 seconds
With a starting price of $5,200
Another reason I would avoid it, way too expensive.
They don’t seem to fold up very easily too. For that money you can buy an electric Brompton.
I think I’d be happy with a regular brompton haha, they just came out with 12 speeds too!
I rode one and was impressed at how well it rode for how tiny it seems, but for the price, they better be impressive!
I am seriously considering one but might just buy a knockoff. My main bike is in the shop though, so I’m probably just feeling antsy.
If I were rich I’d buy one but I’m waiting for a good belt driven folder, possibly ebike, possibly not. Wish the Tern Vektron had a belt variant.
I would probably avoid a folding ebike. Looks like rail companies are starting to ban vehicles with large lithium packs on them here. I assume ebikes get away with it for now by being similar visually to regular bikes and staff not knowing the difference.
All it takes is one of the cheap Chinese ones setting a train on fire and killing people in a tunnel, I think that prompted the scooter ban, though just the battery and it didn’t spread to the train.
Quick edit: Just looked it up and not sure if it was on a train actually. But that is the fear about it. They are responsible for a lot of house fires. All houses near us that burnt down recently were due to lithium batteries, though some are power tools it’s not just bikes/scooters.
Looks like rail companies are starting to ban
If this is true, it will be an own goal for sustainability. I for one will be mighty pissed off and will try to do something about it.
A related issue here is the EU’s 250W motor limit for ebikes, which means that even a 400W ebike is completely illegal on a public road without a motorbike registration. From what I can tell, most of the ebike companies are either pretending this rule doesn’t exist, or obfuscating about it, or putting in switches to throttle the motor to 250W and magically make the thing “legal”. I am looking to buy an ebike - which I will attempt to take on a train - and this whole issue is driving me to distraction.
250w nominal or peak? Seeing people has been saying Bosch 250w motor is good enough kinda feels like it’s nominal, and i’m using 250w nominal which imo is enough. I also live on hilly area, and my bike is heavy as heck, it’s still able to pull me in pedal assist mode, which i wouldn’t be able to climb it myself.
The fact that you don’t even know is exactly what I’m talking about. It’s peak - the regulation is pretty clear that you can’t just put a button “Push this to comply”, the motor must not be capable of outputting more than 250W. Or else stay off the public road, sidewalk included.
It seems that hardly anybody cares because there’s all but no enforcement in most countries. But as I understand it from much sleuthing, there’s been some cracking down in some places, notably France. So who’s to say what’s coming next year? Personally I’m not wasting a thousand euro if it’s to get pulled over and fined, or to get in trouble trying to cross a border while touring, or (worst of all) to find that I’m uninsured in an accident.
And now this about trains. Hardly surprising there’s gonna be problem if people are trying to pass off 1kW motorbikes as ebikes.
In the UK anything over 250w would be considered some kind of motorcycle. To be an ebike the motor can only be pedal assist and cuts out over about 15mph.
Yeah, this will be solved, though, and probably not too far in the future. Sodium ion batteries are safe, although can’t yet compete on energy density; and silicon carbon is also safe, has better density and it’s starting to show up “in the wild.”
The best will be solid state batteries, and although they’re still in “research” phase and so could possibly end up as vapor-ware, electric car makers are aggressively pursuing this and that’s a lot of dollars going into it, so I’m more hopeful about this one. And it’ll probably jump directly to the ebike market rather quickly once it lands.
You can now buy solid state travel batteries, so I think that one we will start seeing in bigger stuff in the not too distant future as long as there are no major disruptions.
Ooo, got a link? I mean, to the travel batteries.
It’s going to take TSA a while to catch up, but there’s a capacity limit of 20KAh for carry-on batteries. There should be no restriction for solid state ones, although convincing an agent of that seems futile. But if they become common enough, maybe they’ll change the rules.
I have no personal experience with them yet (I still have a few newish lithium ones that are more than enough to keep my family’s stuff charged for days) but https://kuxiu.co/products/kuxiu-s2-power-bank
If you search for them there might be other ones as well; I don’t think the one I posted was even the one I was thinking of but I can’t remember where I originally saw it
This is part of why I’ve been holding off on buying a new ebike: If they make something that has a solid stat battery and belt drive, I’m definitely going to pull the trigger, but for now I’m still riding a budget ebike and saving my money for when they finally come out with an ebike that DGAF about the cold.
Company policy will likely take a long time to update, or even never will.
