These bigoted, ignorant scum will never listen to anything. They are politically illiterate infants with an allergic reaction to reading.
They have ruined a safe space cultivated and cared for, they have turned this place into a new reddit.
I had a dude in my private messages going on about how I was both mutilating myself and other children. Many more people on hexbear have had similar experiences, with these worthless ignorant scum popping in to deliver the political equivalent of a giant shit.
As your friends, comrades, and people you say you defend get slurred at, dehumanized, and harassed please ask yourself:
Is it worth it?
I have the answer, I know you know it as well:
No its not
I used to think otherwise
I was a fool
its not worth a few laughs
even if you dunk all you want, that doesn’t take away the knife those people put in our backs.
These bigots, fascists, and NATO liberals are as worthless offline as they are here, why should we give them any attention. They are worth less than the dirt beneath our fingernails. Why should we poison ourselves with their influence? We don’t make any room for them offline, why should we not online?
And really
How many essays have your written?
How many sources have you combed through?
How many times have you explained the most basic facts of reality?
How many attempts at good faith?
Only for them to dismiss it in their stupidity. They don’t read it, they just crumble and divert back to the programming these little shits trust in more than God.
For every time there is a good faith user, there are a dozen scumbag fascists. And most of the time, the “good faith one” just reverts back to their old shit.
Do you really think losing any member of the hexbear or lemmygrad community, longtime members or not, is worth a few good dunks?
I don’t believe a small chance of gaining a new user is worth alienating an entire section of the community. The vast majority of those idiots are lost causes. If they are interested, the can just make an account and ask in good faith.
Is posting a meme to “own the liberals” worth your comrades getting more trauma from bigots harassing them?
No its not.
you’ve had your laugh, but it should end
Ban them all, SJW, lemm.ee, lemmy, the programmer nazi edglords. Keep Lemmygrad.
Defederate from those communities. We shouldn’t sacrifice our own for more clicks. For having to subject ourselves to the opinions of people thoroughly brainwashed? We aren’t reddit. We came here to get away from that. I’m sick of this. We are sick of this.
End it now
Ultimately, I support the Admins and mods decisions, the brunt of the consequences fall on them.
I’ve only been active around here a month or so, I did lurk a lot before then, so I realize I don’t have the full picture here. That said, I found Hexbear without federation to the lib instances, I found hexbear through Lemmygrad. I enjoy being part of Hexbear and being federated with Lemmygrad, the Star Trek instance, and midwest.social, I do not enjoy being federated with the general instances. One opinion among many, but I must throw mine onto the pile.
The worst instances all preemptively defed from us, or do it within a couple weeks so it’s sort of the trash taking itself out. Also, I think the Admins and mods have done an excellent job with everything. I’m just here for the good vibes, and that hasn’t gone anywhere as far I can see, and I’m sure that’s due to extra hard work from them! And our posters in the pit engaging the libs so they don’t DM target folks like me.
Hey, just chiming in cos I’ve not been active enough to see much more than a little of the drama and clashes. That said, I was excited to join Midwest.social since that’s a) where I am and b) has a self described leftist bent.
So my reply basically is “hey! midwest.social got mentioned positively!” My observation of the hexbear community has been positive, you all seem pretty chill and I align closer with those views politically than std.lib.
My muddling through my leftist journey in the past 5-10 years is still in progress, but has brought me to the kind of “ends are the means” anarchist type view. So I can see why some get bent out of shape over the more authoritarian/Stalin-esque views. Though that said if you support western imperialism. Look in the fucking mirror, right?
Seems like online discussion is always an uphill battle if you’re trying to have any kind of productive or respectful discourse. I don’t like the idea of defederation on principle, it does get harder to manage the bigger a community gets. Anyway, thanks for reading through my meandering Ted Talk, haha.