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  • AbidanYre@lemmy.world
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    They did that to me. I specifically gave them a card I knew was going to expire before the trial period was over and they got the new information anyway.

    If I remember correctly, it’s a “feature” the credit card companies have so your subscriptions don’t lapse.

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      This is more based on authorization vs CC details. It’s much safer for a company than holding onto credit card numbers. Creating a subscriptions generates an authorization code which is good for the account, not just a specific card number. Revoking that authorization is a separate call to the bank rather than just having a credit card replaced.

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        That authorization shouldn’t be indefinite either though. After three years of no activity and a card expiring, OnStar was still able to make a charge to renew that trial subscription.

        And looking around the web, there are a few stories from that 2016 time frame to indicate that it was a new-ish, or at least not well known, practice at the time.

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      Yeah and it’s very useful, looks like this place is just as bad with the kids as that other place.

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          The fact people here don’t even understand how credit cards work is a pretty big sign my guy….

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            The fact that you think it’s reasonable for literally anyone but you to give out your credit card details is a pretty big sign my guy

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              Because banks don’t give out credit card details.

              You created an authorization code which is independent from the credit card details. The authorization code doesn’t get revoked automatically when a card expires or a new card issued.

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                Jesus tap dancing christ. I understand the difference between CC + CCV + expiry date and an oauth token (or whatever protocol they’re using for identification and authentication). I’m saying that not expiring auth codes when new cards are issued is a security and privacy issue. Users should ideally be given a switch to opt in to behavior like that. It should not be the default.

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        If I want to keep a subscription going I’ll give them the new CC information myself. Like a responsible adult. Hard disagree on the usefullness.

        Not sure what point you’re even trying to make about children and Reddit.

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          There are lots of situations you wouldn’t want your service to be cancelled, so it’s a useful feature is all we’re saying. People acting like it’s malice are hilarious and/or children.

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            11 months ago

            And in those situations I will contact the vendor to give them updated information. I don’t find it useful when a free trial I haven’t thought about for three years suddenly charges me several hundred dollars.

            Nobody ever said malice, but it’s a service that flies in the face of the whole concept of an expiration date.