Not the bad porn script you were expecting, I swear. šŸ™ƒ

So hereā€™s one for fans of grey areas.

SO has brought two daughters and a son into our relationship. Theyā€™re all young adults now. We generally get along well and Iā€™m a trusted third party and, according to the then-minor younger daughter, a good source for pregnancy tests and the such ā€œbecause youā€™re the least likely to freak outā€.

Weā€™re generally a very open and judgement-free family, and Iā€™m immensely proud of the fact that the kids feel comfortable talking freely about love and sex with both of us despite their ā€˜traditionalā€™ catholic indoctrination upbringing. Weā€™ve established that we can talk about anything but wonā€™t go into detail about their or my personal preferences. This works very well and thereā€™s a lot of trust. Whenever their motherā€™s not around, the kids talk to me about whateverā€™s on their mind (anything really, not just love/sex stuff).

Thereā€™s one thing that makes me slightly uncomfortable though, and Iā€™m not sure if Iā€™m the one whoā€™s at fault here. Itā€™s the older daughterā€™s choice of clothing at home. Especially in summer and near the pool, she often walks around in a t-shirt or scant bikini top and panties whose front just about covers the crack and whose back leaves nothing to the imagination.

Iā€™m very happy that sheā€™s both happy enough with her body and feels comfortable enough around me to walk around this way. Especially the former has been a bit of work on her motherā€™s part.

Now my own background is that I come from a very uptight family myself (sex is an evil and shameful thing that the wife endures because she owes it to her husband) but am very open now (swinger clubs, former co-host for BDSM meetings etc.). I also have a minor degree in both communication and sex therapy.
Still you never entirely shake off an upbringing based entirely on shame and guilt, and occasionally thereā€™s a situation that instinctively makes me uncomfortable, but upon closer inspection I conclude that it really shouldnā€™t.

Iā€™m currently trying to figure out whether this is one of those false-alarm situations, and it really bothers me.
On the one hand, ā€œyou donā€™t wear that kind of outfit in front of men youā€™re not biologically related to.ā€
On the other hand, why not? She should be able to wear whatever sheā€™s comfortable with in the privacy of our home. And you canā€™t make a request such as ā€œdress more modestlyā€ without it smelling of misogyny.
On the other other hand, it would definitely be inappropriate for her to walk around entirely in the nude, so thereā€™s got to be a line somewhere.

(Let me add that sheā€™s never even remotely tried anything, and I really donā€™t think of her in ā€˜thatā€™ way, so thatā€™s not the issue.)

TL;DR: Adult stepdaughter sometimes wears revealing clothes, makes me uncomfortable, not sure if itā€™s supposed to. Nothing fishy going on.

EDIT: Wow, so much food for thought. I donā€™t think Iā€™m going to be able to reply to everyone individually, but Iā€™ve come to realize that what makes me uncomfortable is probably the idea that she or other people around us might feel uncomfortable, and in the classic stepfather-stepdaughter constellation I could be seen as a potential ā€˜perpetratorā€™, which Iā€™d need to protect myself against. So itā€™s really just mostly me worrying about what other people might think (but probably donā€™t).
But the point is, if sheā€™s comfortable thereā€™s really nothing tangible for me to worry about.

  • drewdarko@kbin.social
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    Seems like my opinion is an unpopular one here but here goes:

    If the tables were turned and it was an adult revealing too much of their body to a child and making the child uncomfortable it would be inappropriate.

    If someone goes out in public naked under a trench coat and exposes themselves to people who donā€™t want to see their genitals itā€™s sexual assault.

    I realize different countries have different social norms but just because a scandanavian country is ok with nudity doesnā€™t mean that the rest of the world is or has to be. You have your own social norms based on where you live and at least in the US, certain body parts make the majority uncomfortable when visible. I donā€™t see this as right or wrong, just local customs.

    If social norms were to change to accept nudity then that would change the situation. Some of these comments downplay the fact that it makes you uncomfortable just because nudity is accepted in a scandanavian country. Which is like saying: ā€œIn middle eastern countries woman must be fully covered at all times so you should live by that customā€, which is the opposite side of the same spectrum of acceptable nudity.

    Itā€™s my opinion that we all have to coexist and that means taking other peoples feeling into consideration to some degree. Even if those feelings are formed from social norms that change depending on where you are.

    To answer your question, I donā€™t think it is good to talk directly to the daughter and tell her to change the way she dresses but I would let her mother know it makes me uncomfortable and try to find a compromise.