I’m using Element. I haven’t noticed it being particularly slow and I am in a lot of rooms. But I’m also not a heavy user on my phone, most of my usage is desktop.
What slowness are you noticing? Browsing the interface, sending, receiving? Something else?
I’ve self-hosted matrix and federation with the main matrix server was slow. Using their rooms was sluggish compared to the rooms on my own server and they’d even turned off status reports.
I think it’s the matrix main server itself that is burdened.
In that case no app is really going to help. They can be slightly better about proactive syncing but if the problem is a slow server then the only true solution is improving the server (or switching to a faster one).
The matrix people are working on their second generation server, Dendrite, to handle these problems last time I checked. I don’t know if they’ve switched over yet, but seeing Dendrite still being beta I don’t think so.
My understanding is that Synapse (the current matrix.org server and most common+complete server implementation) performs perfectly adequately unless you are an absolutely huge server (which is basically just matrix.org). They are making performance improvements to Synapse but it is an ever growing battle.
Running your own server to switching to a smaller host will likely get you much better performance without needing to switch away from Synapse.
I don’t know if they have done the same type of performance testing for Dendrite, but hopefully it will be good one day.
If you are on matrix.org then likely yes. It is well know for being slow. As the biggest homeserver by a good margin it really struggles in the performance department. The operations you describe are all those that need to wait on the server.
If you want the best experience the best option is to get a dedicated server. There are various hosts that you can buy from (such as Element https://element.io/personal-plans) or you can run your own.
However it is also possible to find other public homeservers and many are free but I can’t attest to their performance as I haven’t tried them.
Isn’t this always the case? A server with dedicated resources just for you is going to give you the best response time. A server trying to squeeze lots of people onto low-cost hardware is going to be slower.
We all love someone giving us a great experience for free, but you can’t expect that. We are lucky enough that there are a handful of free homeservers available, but they still aren’t the same as something dedicated just for you.
I’m using Element. I haven’t noticed it being particularly slow and I am in a lot of rooms. But I’m also not a heavy user on my phone, most of my usage is desktop.
What slowness are you noticing? Browsing the interface, sending, receiving? Something else?
I’ve self-hosted matrix and federation with the main matrix server was slow. Using their rooms was sluggish compared to the rooms on my own server and they’d even turned off status reports.
I think it’s the matrix main server itself that is burdened.
In that case no app is really going to help. They can be slightly better about proactive syncing but if the problem is a slow server then the only true solution is improving the server (or switching to a faster one).
The matrix people are working on their second generation server, Dendrite, to handle these problems last time I checked. I don’t know if they’ve switched over yet, but seeing Dendrite still being beta I don’t think so.
My understanding is that Synapse (the current matrix.org server and most common+complete server implementation) performs perfectly adequately unless you are an absolutely huge server (which is basically just
matrix.org). They are making performance improvements to Synapse but it is an ever growing battle.Running your own server to switching to a smaller host will likely get you much better performance without needing to switch away from Synapse.
I don’t know if they have done the same type of performance testing for Dendrite, but hopefully it will be good one day.
syncing is slow, and sending/receiving messages, does that mean I should use another server ?
sliding sync should help when it is finished
If you are on matrix.org then likely yes. It is well know for being slow. As the biggest homeserver by a good margin it really struggles in the performance department. The operations you describe are all those that need to wait on the server.
https://joinmatrix.org/servers/
oh, do you have a suggestion for another server ?
If you want the best experience the best option is to get a dedicated server. There are various hosts that you can buy from (such as Element https://element.io/personal-plans) or you can run your own.
However it is also possible to find other public homeservers and many are free but I can’t attest to their performance as I haven’t tried them.
Really? Get your own server for the best experience?
Isn’t this always the case? A server with dedicated resources just for you is going to give you the best response time. A server trying to squeeze lots of people onto low-cost hardware is going to be slower.
We all love someone giving us a great experience for free, but you can’t expect that. We are lucky enough that there are a handful of free homeservers available, but they still aren’t the same as something dedicated just for you.
@Icarus @kevincox Interested.