• GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    I think their point is that it’s a Z and not the Russian tricolor (not sure how you’d make the latter a rainbow anyway), i.e. an endorsement of the campaign specifically and not the state generally.

    I still think OOP is goofy because neither the Russians nor the Ukronazis are fighting to protect or advance trans rights, but I don’t think it’s exactly as bad as using the flag of a queer-phobic state, be it Russia, Ukraine, or America.

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      So it would be more like putting trans colors on a US challenge coin about attacking an even worse country, still pretty odd

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        Russia has risen to a sacred fight to protect its sovereignty and security. We will always support the decisions of President Putin and the Russian leadership … and we will be together in the fight against imperialism.

        -Kim Jong Un

        The US has never been anti-imperialist. What is your westoid obsession with projecting your own sins on your enemies?

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          The US has never been anti-imperialist

          What are we pretending my position is next

          Edit: thanks for saying disengage, it’s a good idea, bye

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        If we just imagined there was a country (or section of a country) that the US taking over would actually make things better for . . . sure? But there hasn’t been one of those since 1945, and even then the US made sure to minimize the good it did by giving amnesty to heinous war criminals.

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          So yeah that’s a good example, I could use the logo from like a US WWII regiment to make fun of some Nazis they killed, but I wouldn’t put like black nationalist colors or LGBT colors on the logo when it was whites-only and discharged gay people

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            That’s a bit of a contortion since “Z” is not a regiment. Using some sort of black liberationist symbol in conjunction with a more general symbol from the US attack on the Nazis seems, well, a little odd since it was a segregated military as you say, but nonetheless had black soldiers triumphing over Nazis who would have them enslaved or murdered. I suppose Azov isn’t likely being all that nice to trans people, but I’ve seen zero reporting on that topic.