These men are not just poor souls, that simply haven’t met the right woman yet. These are socially incompetent men, that turn their frustration into hate. They’re basically the Principal Skinner meme “Am I wrong? No, it’s all the women who are wrong!”.
What can you realistically do about that? Maybe schools could try to do a better job to integrate them, but even that is dubious.
You are not wrong in the analysis, but let’s be honest, there has always been this breeding ground. And at least today, they want to be in that position. They could better themselves at any point, but they choose to self-victimize. That’s not a thing politics can change.
Politics can help set up the incentivizes in place to reintgrate these men into society, however, the change is fundamentally a social one. Treating them as an enemy is not going to work and doing nothing is not going to work either. Having a good chunk of the military aged male demographic unemployed, unhappy, and desperate is a sure sign of incoming chaos for a society.
Having a good chunk of the military aged male demographic unemployed, unhappy, and desperate is a sure sign of incoming chaos for a society.
They are largely not unemployed. And their unhappiness is self inflicted. That’s the thing, you can’t force these people out of their shells. They put themselves their.
Also, nobody hates them. This is again this weird self-victimization. Most people simply don’t care about them, because apart from some mass shooting or online-bullying now and then, they don’t matter at all.
My point is that we are heading in the wrong direction, and we should do something about it before we get to that point if we did then historical trends tell us that we’re going to some dark times. I would’ve agreed with you if this issue was only affecting an insignificant number of men, but it’s not. The amount of young men who are in this position is big enough to the point where this is genuine societal issue that needs to be addressed.
No, it’s only getting more reported and the reasons shifted.
It used to be religious fundamentalism, political radicals, sects, etc. Now it’s the more straight forward form of radicalism, but the root is the same and the numbers didn’t change drastically over night.
That’s not true. There’s a lot of good indicitators that things weren’t like this before. For example, the marrying age was lower, male happiness was much higher, male suicide rates were lower, male drug abuse rates were lower, loneliness skyrocketed, mental health issues skyrocketed. You’re right that this didn’t happen overnight. These trends have been happening for the past few of decades, it’s just that it’s getting to a point where it’s hard to ignore because it affects so many people.
What do you propose to do about it? Should women just start having pity sex with these men because they might start a fascist revolution if we don’t? Women should just go back to being submissive housewives so men can be “happy” like they were in the 50s? Like what do you think people should do about it?
These men are not just poor souls, that simply haven’t met the right woman yet. These are socially incompetent men, that turn their frustration into hate. They’re basically the Principal Skinner meme “Am I wrong? No, it’s all the women who are wrong!”.
What can you realistically do about that? Maybe schools could try to do a better job to integrate them, but even that is dubious.
You are not wrong in the analysis, but let’s be honest, there has always been this breeding ground. And at least today, they want to be in that position. They could better themselves at any point, but they choose to self-victimize. That’s not a thing politics can change.
Politics can help set up the incentivizes in place to reintgrate these men into society, however, the change is fundamentally a social one. Treating them as an enemy is not going to work and doing nothing is not going to work either. Having a good chunk of the military aged male demographic unemployed, unhappy, and desperate is a sure sign of incoming chaos for a society.
They are largely not unemployed. And their unhappiness is self inflicted. That’s the thing, you can’t force these people out of their shells. They put themselves their.
Also, nobody hates them. This is again this weird self-victimization. Most people simply don’t care about them, because apart from some mass shooting or online-bullying now and then, they don’t matter at all.
My point is that we are heading in the wrong direction, and we should do something about it before we get to that point if we did then historical trends tell us that we’re going to some dark times. I would’ve agreed with you if this issue was only affecting an insignificant number of men, but it’s not. The amount of young men who are in this position is big enough to the point where this is genuine societal issue that needs to be addressed.
No, it’s only getting more reported and the reasons shifted.
It used to be religious fundamentalism, political radicals, sects, etc. Now it’s the more straight forward form of radicalism, but the root is the same and the numbers didn’t change drastically over night.
That’s not true. There’s a lot of good indicitators that things weren’t like this before. For example, the marrying age was lower, male happiness was much higher, male suicide rates were lower, male drug abuse rates were lower, loneliness skyrocketed, mental health issues skyrocketed. You’re right that this didn’t happen overnight. These trends have been happening for the past few of decades, it’s just that it’s getting to a point where it’s hard to ignore because it affects so many people.
What do you propose to do about it? Should women just start having pity sex with these men because they might start a fascist revolution if we don’t? Women should just go back to being submissive housewives so men can be “happy” like they were in the 50s? Like what do you think people should do about it?