No evidence that UFOs are aliens — NASA attempts to make conversations about aerial phenomena more scientific::NASA attempts to make conversations about aerial phenomena more scientific.

  • 5BC2E7@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    11
    arrow-down
    9
    ·
    1 year ago

    Did nasa release any evidence supporting the human traffiking and the other issue you mention? because they have not said it’s not real. NASA already made official statements acknowledging that there are uaps all over the world, they are now saying that they don’t have evidence that it’s aliens. they have not said it’s not real we have passed that point.

    source: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/pentagon-nasa-no-earthly-idea-164000079.html

      • lorez@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        arrow-down
        7
        ·
        1 year ago

        No, it’s not. It’s scientist for we don’t know.

        • ours@lemmy.film
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          1 year ago

          You’re missing his point. It’s not not knowing, it’s “current empirical evidence points to X conclusion”.

          Science is always open to changing their conclusion based on new evidence. People take that as doubt while con-men bring them absolute answers with absolute confidence and mistake this for facts.

          • lorez@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            1 year ago

            Exactly. Sorry if I expressed my thoughts all wrong. But that’s what I meant, that science always awaits new evidence.

      • 5BC2E7@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        10
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        my reply had nothing to do with “that conclusion” so you are not making any sense.

        edit: Its sad that even after saying it repeatedly people are still conflating not aliens with not real. just to show how asinine this stance is, consider that there was no evidence that the chinese balloon that was taken down was aliens. so according to your logic the balloon is not real, hopefully that contradiction activates some neurons on the people that still conflate not aliens with not real…

          • 5BC2E7@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            4
            ·
            1 year ago

            your comment basically confirms you did not read my previous comment where i shared an example that nasa disclosed with a link. there is even a non blurry video of one…

              • SCB@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                4
                ·
                1 year ago

                We have many documented UAPs that have no explanation. That’s what he means by “real UAP.”

                “No evidence of aliens” is not scientist for “no” here because we do have an unexplainable thing that, in the set of plausible explanations, includes “aliens.” NASA is saying there is no proof it is alien, so the entire set of plausible unexplained reasons is still in play

                The way science works is we will slowly chip away at what that set contains.

                Now stop being a dick.

                  • SCB@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    1 year ago

                    Because UAPs represent everything from legitimate national security risks to funded programs with little or no oversight.

                    You’re so bent out of shape with “NOT ALIENS OMG BRO” that you’re not seeing the real-world impact.

                    You could just assume that actual, professional scientists know more than you do.

              • 5BC2E7@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                4
                ·
                1 year ago

                It’s not “my term” you can find the meaning of real in the dictionary.

      • 5BC2E7@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        8
        ·
        1 year ago

        yes and given the dismissive tone I believe that he doesn’t make any distinction between uap and ufo, nhi and aliens.

        • nul@programming.dev
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          9
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          Doesn’t sound dismissive to my ear. Sounds like they believe nhi are likely out there, but our attention is being maliciously diverted by the classical specter of “little green men” for the purposes of politics and control. That’s my read, anyway.

          • 5BC2E7@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            6
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            I hope he can clarify. your interpretation seems equally valid to me, i just did not see it until you said it.

            EDIT: he made it clear with his reply, it’s all the same in his mind.

    • bitsplease@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      1 year ago

      NASA already made official statements acknowledging that there are uaps all over the world, they are now saying that they don’t have evidence that it’s aliens.

      Yes, of course UAPs are real, it literally just means “stuff in the sky that we don’t know for certain what it is”, what it doesn’t mean is “aliens”, hence NASAs statement

      they have not said it’s not real we have passed that point.

      Again, they said UAPs are real (which again, duh), not that aliens are real

      • 5BC2E7@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        I am not sure what is your point. It’s clear to me and It might be clear to you, but you should look at the comments and realize that a few people struggle to accept that its not a hoax.

        • bitsplease@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          1 year ago

          I’d imagine that any person who says that UAPs aren’t real, isn’t aware of the actual definition of UAP. for which, frankly, I blame conspiracy theorists for conflating the term “UAP” with “aliens” just like they did with UFO