Mr Trump made the gaffe about the threat of World War II — which finished in 1945 — during the part of his address in which he was questioning the mental acuity of 80-year-old Mr Biden.

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    Maybe he got confused by all the swastikas around these days. It sure feels like the rise of the third Reich down in Florida

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      Trump wanted US military generals to emulate generals of the third Reich and treat him like he was Hitler:

      It turned out that the generals had rules, standards, and expertise, not blind loyalty. The President’s loud complaint to John Kelly one day was typical: “You fucking generals, why can’t you be like the German generals?”
      “Which generals?” Kelly asked.
      “The German generals in World War II,” Trump responded.
      “You do know that they tried to kill Hitler three times and almost pulled it off?” Kelly said.
      But, of course, Trump did not know that. “No, no, no, they were totally loyal to him,” the President replied. In his version of history, the generals of the Third Reich had been completely subservient to Hitler; this was the model he wanted for his military. Kelly told Trump that there were no such American generals, but the President was determined to test the proposition.
      https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/15/inside-the-war-between-trump-and-his-generals

      Trump, not a man known for his literacy, kept a book of Hitler’s speeches by his bed and would read it sometimes:

      Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler’s speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist.
      https://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/2015/07/donald-ivana-trump-divorce-prenup-marie-brenner

      Then there’s this:

      Donald Trump appears to take aspects of his German background seriously. John Walter works for the Trump Organization, and when he visits Donald in his office, Ivana told a friend, he clicks his heels and says, “Heil Hitler,” possibly as a family joke.

      Trump seems to aspire to be Hitler-like, and he even tried to take supreme dictatorial power through populism, lies and propaganda like Hitler did.

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        And now we know why Tuberville is holding up military appointments. He’s waiting for Trump to come back and nominate crazies that will show loyalty to the president over the welfare of the country.

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          If the shoe was on the other foot and there was a Democrat holding up all these appointments, I have zero doubt that Republicans would find a way around it or cause holy hell in the media till something changed.

          Democrats on the other hand are too timid to rustle some feathers.

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              Green? Fuck off with that shit. Stein was bought and paid for by Putin and you are going to proudly state that you support the spoiler party that played it’s part in getting Trump elected.

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                If you dislike the Democrats, but you refuse to vote for anybody else, where’s their motivation to change?

                Stein was bought and paid for by Putin

                The “evidence” for this is that she was photographed sitting at a table with Putin. Jill says that she had no plans to meet with him, and they didn’t even discuss anything.

                On the other hand, there are photos of Hillary shaking hands with Putin. So, I guess that means she’s “bought and paid for by Putin”, too?

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        "You do know that they tried to kill Hitler three times and almost pulled it off?” Kelly said.

        That is precisely the kind of officer America needed under Turnip Dump.

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        “Which generals?” Kelly asked.
        “The German generals in World War II,” Trump responded.
        “You do know that they tried to kill Hitler three times and almost pulled it off?” Kelly said.

        He mean he wanted generals like Nazis.

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    For those who didn’t read the article, Trump claims Biden is too old and senile to be trusted to run the country then proceeds to confuse WW2 and WW3, then confused Biden and Obama and then immediately after confused Hilary and Obama (ie, the headline slightly understates it if anything.)

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      Here’s the citation:

      “The radical left thugs have weaponised law enforcement to arrest their leading political opponent … leading by a lot … including Obama,” he said before catching the error and trying to get back on track but appearing to forget that it was Hillary Clinton he beat in the 2016 presidential election.

      “I’ll tell you what … you take a look at Obama and you look at some of the things that he’s done, this is the same thing, the country was very divided and we did with Obama, we won an election they said that couldn’t be won.”

      It made no sense to me, I thought I was used to how this guy speaks. I listened to the video. It’s the same thing. makes no sense.

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    To be fair, last time this many Nazis were openly supporting a fascist lunatic we did get WWII.

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    That boy ain’t right…

    Yet the media will not be running article after article on Trump’s “fitness” to be president.

    Because they know the answer is “He never was, he never will be.”

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      Republicans will protect him from any referendums regarding his fitness to be president. They don’t care about his crimes, gaffes, lapses in logic, childish outbursts, anti-intellectualism, open racism, hate, stochastic terrorism, boorishness, fascist tendencies, Russian asset-like behaviors, or antidemocratic coups. They sure as shit won’t care about this.

      Trump himself has threatened to start WWIII with nuclear missiles over twitter on more than one occasion, and often floated assassinations of high-ranking members of nuclear states like Iran.

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    If the Left weren’t so timid, they would be all over this and demand he is examined for senility. Because, let’s face it, that is exactly what the GOP would do if Biden started talking about the War of 1812 or how he will defeat George W Bush.

    Sure, there are going to be a bunch of snarky comments and a few memes about this posted, but I hate to break it to you all, our comments on social media don’t mean squat. We need actual people in positions of power to come forward and demand Trump get a mental health exam. But they clearly are too cowardly to do so.

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      Timidity isn’t the problem. The “left” only exists in online forums such as Lemmy. Truth be told, there’s been such a disastrous amount of damage done to working class consciousness over the decades during the cold war that people think wanting universal healthcare is communist.

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        But that is being timid. Because the Right has made universal healthcare a “communist” thing, but the Left is so utterly clueless in this country that they can’t make a unified, cohesive argument for it. They are too timid to attack the Right, even when the Right never misses a chance to go on the offensive.

        The Left in other parts of the industrialized world can be credited for universal healthcare, paternity leave, low-cost higher education and stuff like that.

        The Left in the US can be credited for fucking up pronouns.

        One is useful for getting working families what they need most to not just survive, but actually prosper. The other is just uselessly wasting everyone’s time and energy on pointless issues, and as such, it is no wonder that the Left in the US gets little support and even less respect.

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          Poll after poll has shown that the majority of people in the US support universal healthcare. Even the majority of Republicans! So, the problem isn’t that people are scared of universal healthcare. The problem is we aren’t organized.

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            Spare me.

            We do the healthcare debate in this country about once a generation. It takes years for the situation to get so bad that people are so sick of things that they legitimately start demanding change. That’s one of the things that got Obama elected around 15 years ago. And all this talk about us demanding change and a better system vanished almost overnight when the debate actually started. All those people who weeks prior were all for some kind of universal coverage, all of a sudden they fell quiet as these people got cold feet. So just as the people who wanted change quieted down, at the same time you had right wing groups trying to scare people with accusations of “death panels” and a bunch of other pro-business bullshit. So in the end, Obama being the pragmatist that he was, settled for a much watered-down healthcare program that barely passed Congress.

            So pardon me whenever I hear this nonsense that “a majority of the US supports universal healthcare” all I can do is laugh because polls are utterly meaningless because the one time in recent history when we could have gone that route, we fell far short. And to be clear, I absolutely think we need universal healthcare, but I just know my fellow Americans say a whole lot of things in non-binding polls, but rarely follow-through with that when it comes to electing like-minded individuals.

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              Correct, and those things happened because the left wasn’t organized. We’re also easily divided by Democrat propaganda that demonizes people like Ralph Nader, Jill Stein, and Bernie Sanders.

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          The problem is that there is no true “Left” in America. The Democrats are a right wing political party when compared with international politics.

          The only difference between the 2 is that the Dems pretend to fight for human rights, though in actuality they DO very little. Mostly just talk, not mich action.

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      The number of powerful politicians on the left I can count on one hand.

      What you’re talking about isn’t cowardice. It’s complicity. They want Trump to be the nominee, because they think they can beat him. Worst case scenario, he wins, and they get to fundraise like hell and benefit from his tax cuts.

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        Trump being the nominee is indeed the best situation for Dems. No question about that, but he’s been making these type of deluded comments even when he was in office and Dems never went hard on the “he’s got dementia” angle in attacking him. I’m not talking about random folks like us online, but rather elected officials. They were (and are still) afraid of getting in the crosshairs of Trump.

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      He’s had a mental health exam. Remember “Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV?”

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/23/person-woman-man-camera-tv-trump-insists-cognition-test-was-difficult

      He bragged about how easy his Alzheimer’s test was. This is the organization that does the test he was referring to:

      https://mocacognition.com/

      MoCA empowers healthcare professionals and researchers to detect cognitive impairment related to

      Alzheimer’s disease

      Parkinson’s disease

      Huntington’s disease

      Lewy Body Dementia

      VCI/Stroke

      Fronto-temporal dementia

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      To be real, I’m kinda surprised the GOP hasn’t already done this, enough people already believe this especially on the right

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        They kind of have. Fox News is endlessly using the worst images and videos of Biden in their broadcasts. Some of them purposely altered.

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        Yes, but it’s nonsense that riles up the base and gets them to vote! So he’s still a useful idiot to the GOP…

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      I mean he’s always been such an eloquent and thoughtful speaker, you know?

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    Do we actually need more proof that Trump has a brain of cheese? Even before being old he was fucking deranged. It’s a joke that this is even a topic of discussion at this point.

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    Republicans once again proving that every accusation they make against others is just a confession

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    let’s be real: insanity is the only defense left on the table. he’s always been incoherent, so his lawyers probably told him to lean into it.

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        Seems likely. I mean, reading stuff from the 90s, it seems he had his brains in order then, just with that bad habit of putting his d*ck into too many places. And cocaine may not necessarily make one that demented.

        It’s kinda sad. I’d really like to die before I turn into something like this, no matter how.