“Not all”, and i cannot emphasize this enough, literal fucking SS men.
The entire organization was judged guilty for it’s critical role in the holocaust, to say nothing of the millions upon millions of people they murdered beyond the holocaust. The case was tried decades ago.
The interesting bit about the guilt is that Canadian courts did a “Ukrainian SS are no big deal” defense, there were decades of organized white washing for them. This can also be seen in wikipedia and the empirical work of historians who did in fact link Ukrainian volunteer SS units to war crimes are diminished there or not even mentioned.
Look 80 years hard labor in Siberia I think is an acceptable compromise
Early in the war, the SS had extremely high standards for recruits for racial purity and ideological commitment. Anyone who joined during this period can basically be safely shot without trial.
Late into 1944 and 1945 the SS was very much in the practice of conscripting people at gunpoint so that’s where it gets murkey to shoot all of them out of hand. Not necessarily wrong, I think there’s shakier justification for executing a conscript vs a hardened fanatic.
Probably best to just give the conscripts hard corrective labor like the Wehrmacht prisoners. Maybe a longer term or harder work since they were still SS.
Late into 1944 and 1945 the SS was very much in the practice of conscripting people at gunpoint
Only if we’re talking areas outside of Germany. I know that’s the case here, but it’s important to clarify because “i was forced to join the nazis or i would’ve been shot” is a very common justification that is very often blatantly false.
Lmao they said in like 4 different comments that they only have a surface level understanding of what the SS was.
Could they have spent that time looking into who the SS was and what they did?
Of course, instead they keep double and tripling down, choosing to die on a hill defending the fucking Nazis.
absolutely every single one of them should have been shot
It should be a case by case basis between
or 
Meh read that comment didn’t think it was worth a dunk post entirely for it. Don’t let rage bait define your online persona its all I’ll say about this.
To be clear I only say this because I’d rather give other leftist instances even a small bit of chance, you know internet, text, nuance and all that. Anyone else? Yeah go ahead.
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SS is used so often as a stand in for any Nazi military person that… this kinda makes sense. its still wrong but I can understand the confusion.
Werr they conscripting weirmacht soldiers into the SS or civilians? I have a hard time believing that they’d tell a baker to join the atrocities division out of the gate. I think that ideological buy in to the, according to the verdict of the Nuremberg trials, criminal organization that committed atrocities would make you, at best, intolerant with no place in society. If you were haunted by a ghost who wails at you “oh, so just because I was fighting for the intolerant in the war, you killed me?” I think you could live a normal, happy life. Find me the single case of a kindly civilian who didn’t endorse Nazi ideology, who went straight to being conscripted to the SS in 44 or 45, and who killed no allied soldier. I’d be shocked to find them. I don’t know how you could even prove it, frankly. I see where you’re coming from but holy fuck are you looking for a hay in a needle stack. Seems like a convenient way to transition to that Parenti quote about how the revolution isn’t perfect on day 1. If you told me that the Nuremberg trials killed off three kindly bakers conscripted to the SS, I wouldn’t have called the post-war effort a farce. I’d go big book of communism on you and blame the Nazis who were lying about their non-involvement for muddying the waters for the 3 kindly bakers.
If you told me that the Nuremberg trials killed off three kindly bakers conscripted to the SS
The Nuremberg Trials only killed 10 guys, from Nazi leadership, so there was literally zero chance of that, even if such people really existed (extremely dubious).
