I’m not on Twitter, so I get my news elsewhere, but most of the actual pictures I see are from here. So is there some kind of bias where only the fascist imagery gets posted here in the the dunk tank? Or do the libs scrolling through Ukrainian posts on Twitter literally see and ignore fascist imagery on every single post? Like, if they see 1000 Ukrainian soldiers, will they see 1000 fascist symbols?

      • xXthrowawayXx [none/use name]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        If you don’t already have the capstone on your bad apples dunk:

        A few bad apples don’t ruin the whole bunch, they ruin the barrel.

        Apples release a gas as they ripen and eventually spoil that makes all the other apples ripen and spoil faster. So obviously a bad apple will make all the apples you put in a barrel with it spoil too.

        But the barrel is made of porous wood, so the apple spoiling gas gets in the barrel and even after you empty the old spoiled apples, hose it out and fill it back up it’s gonna spoil the good apples you put in there.

        A few bad apple don’t just spoil the ones they’re packed in with, they spoil the whole barrel.

        A few bad apples don’t just ruin the police department, they ruin the institution!

        A few Nazis don’t ruin the soldiers they’re stationed with, they ruin the army!

        “Don’t let a few bad apples spoil the whole bunch” means get the fuck rid of those bad apples asap.

        E: the apple spoiling gas is called ethylene.

    • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      54
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      media promotes controversial material

      the media has been deepthroating Western and particularly Ukrainian boots ever since the war began. you would need the strongest solvent on the planet to remove the superglue that binds the average journalist’s tongue to the leather of a Ukrainian jackboot. if even they can’t convincingly depict Ukrainian soldiers as not being coated head-to-toe in imagery that celebrates the fucking Holocaust, then there’s a really big problem in Ukraine.

      “we are killing each other as fast as possible and your worried about a patch?”

      yes, actually, I am worried that many, many Ukrainian soldiers knowingly use fascist imagery in a war that began in 2014 partially over the rights of the Donbass people. that is, in fact, a rather pertinent issue here

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      49
      ·
      1 year ago

      Bruv they can’t keep fash symbols out of pictures of Zelensky with soldiers.

      Yeah, we’re worried about a patch, because when this conflict ends one way or another Ukraine is going to be full of angry nazis with military experience and vast amounts of weaponry and that’s going to be very bad for everyone.

      • homemade_napalm@discuss.tchncs.de
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        Please produce one of those pictures.

        How do you think it will be bad? They are having a hard time fighting the Russians who are using barely trained conscripts and equipment pulled from museums.

        The most advanced things on that battle field are consumer drones and weapon systems that are parts and consumables reliant from western countries.

        • DoiDoi [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          34
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          here ya go

          these are easy as fuck to find. You have to be trying to avoid them if you’re this deep and still incredulous.

          Did you also miss the time that NATO tweeted out a photo of a ukrainian soldier wearing a black sun for international women’s day?

        • Gay_Tomato [they/them, it/its]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          29
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          the Russians who are using barely trained conscripts and equipment pulled from museums.

          Source?

          The most advanced things on that battle field are consumer drones and weapon systems that are parts and consumables reliant from western countries.

          Please point me to your dealer. I’ll buy their entire stock.

        • Please produce one of those pictures.

          https://leftypol.org/edu/src/1662026001627.webm

          Not all of these included Zelensky (some do!) but there’s also a bonus Zelensky video clip in here too you should probably see. Either way, a person has got to be fucking willfully blind not to see that Nazism is endemic to Ukrainian military and leadership (and culture now too, because of the former two).

            • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              8
              ·
              edit-2
              1 year ago

              The amount of brigading and vitriol seen in this community is probably pro Russian agents.

              beep boop I am a communist robot beep boop I am here to subvert americas precious bodily fluids boop beep death to capitalism

              Brigading is when you post on an active discussion in your home instance and the more posting you do the more brigading it is.

              Take your ball and go home. You have no power here.

            • InappropriateEmote [comrade/them, undecided]@hexbear.net
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              8
              ·
              edit-2
              1 year ago

              I’m not saying it doesn’t exist. I’m saying it’s probably over reported on.

              No, it’s criminally underreported in the West because it’s harmful to the narrative that they have to maintain to justify how they insist on perpetuating the war at all costs.

              It doesn’t help that one of Russias main premises for invading is de nazification.

              It only “doesn’t help” if your default assumption is that Russia is always lying about everything. If you recognize that Ukraine has a deep and systemic problem with literal Nazis (which it does), then it becomes obvious that Russia is simply using this fact, justifiably so, as a reason for its role in the conflict.

              every report and image that can’t be traced back to it original source and tied to the Ukrainian military should be viewed skeptically as possible propaganda.

              Go ahead and do that then, and maybe you’ll end up at the correct conclusion that the Ukrainian military is fundamentally a Nazi military. Also try this, look up even western news articles from before 2022 and note how they aren’t shy about pointing this fact out. Look at the image @KittyBobo@hexbear.net posted here if you don’t want to take the time to confirm this yourself.

              The amount of brigading and vitriol seen in this community is probably pro Russian agents.

              There is no “brigading,” it’s just that this is one of the few spaces where voices that are contrary to the dominant western narrative aren’t silenced or immediately overwhelmed. And no, lol, it’s not bots or “agents,” you just aren’t used to seeing those contrary opinions I just mentioned, and it’s easier to blame it on bots/agents than it is to actually engage with well-reasoned arguments you aren’t usually exposed to that challenges your own stance. It’s not easy having to recognize you’ve been lied to and your stance is based on faulty premises, but it is very easy to say “Bots! Agents! Disinformazia!”

              edit: fixed a link

              • daisy@hexbear.net
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                1 year ago

                No, it’s criminally underreported in the West because it’s harmful to the narrative that they have to maintain to justify how they insist on perpetuating the war at all costs.

                This is the one thing that gives me a small sliver of hope for those of us in the west. Popular opinion is still such that “nazi = villain” even in NATO member states, as the recent Canadian parliamentary debacle showed. We’re not so far gone that the modern fascists and their enablers are able to openly talk about their admiration for the nazis in the mainstream media.

    • DoiDoi [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      49
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Yeah typically the media would go out of their way to not portray the nation we’re pumping full of weapons as absolutely covered in nazis, but apparently they’re so common we get to see the black sun on MSNBC while cheering on the freedom boys

    • BelieveRevolt [he/him]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      43
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      some of those patches are close but not actually nazi

      Uh-huh. How are you determining that a patch that looks very similar to a Nazi one actually isn’t? Is it just ”well ackshually, eagles were used by Germany before WWII and the swastika is an ancient Buddhist symbol”?

      we are killing each other as fast as possible and your worried about a patch

      If there are Nazis involved, I personally would like to see them die as fast as possible.