Are you implying the Indigenous peoples of Amerikkka did not violently resist their genocide, and that if they had history would have gone differently?
All I am saying is those who want to celebrate this may do so but all they are celebrating is the excuse Israel will use for continuing and worsening massacre. My only concern is for the human cost of war, the vast majority of which will once more be weathered by the Palestinian people.
No I’m not saying that the indigenous people did not fight back
I’m saying they would eventually all be slaughtered regardless of whether they did fight back or not, so why not choose the option that doesn’t give them a 0 percent chance of survival?
Also yea people are celebrating this but this comment chain has no celebration though
Feel free to voice those concerns on other chains actually celebrating
I just think dogging on someone for saying “think of the actual consequences/Realpolitik of this” is going too far. Especially if you recognize and agree with their point as it seems you do, that the reprisal is likely to be horrific. It strikes me as getting mad at someone for “bringing down the mood” and in my opinion this is already not a “high mood” situation.
All the best comrade, I mean nothing in disrespect
It’s just the criticizing their realpolitik is so clearly devoid of real knowledge or analysis and just based on liberal anti-radical vibes knowing the long history of Palestine Israel relations and how major Arab powers in recent times, most notably Saudi Arabia, are normalizing with Israel
They most likely decided this is the strongest they will ever be and decided to not let it go to waste
The commenter should’ve just not said anything or read a bit more before voicing such a strong opinion
do you think the people primarily concerned with the settler retaliation were anticipating a geopolitical change that this is subverting or are they just pissy about the status quo being disrupted?
buying time isn’t worth anything on it’s own you gotta have something coming that benefits from delaying the enemy.
So you don’t think reprisals tomorrow and beyond will be worse than the status quo?
Of course it will but do you expect the colonized to just not fight back or that Israel wouldn’t have slowly genocided them all eventually regardless?
Remind me again how many Native Americans and First Nations people still exist in America and Canada right now?
Are you implying the Indigenous peoples of Amerikkka did not violently resist their genocide, and that if they had history would have gone differently?
All I am saying is those who want to celebrate this may do so but all they are celebrating is the excuse Israel will use for continuing and worsening massacre. My only concern is for the human cost of war, the vast majority of which will once more be weathered by the Palestinian people.
No I’m not saying that the indigenous people did not fight back
I’m saying they would eventually all be slaughtered regardless of whether they did fight back or not, so why not choose the option that doesn’t give them a 0 percent chance of survival?
Also yea people are celebrating this but this comment chain has no celebration though
Feel free to voice those concerns on other chains actually celebrating
I just think dogging on someone for saying “think of the actual consequences/Realpolitik of this” is going too far. Especially if you recognize and agree with their point as it seems you do, that the reprisal is likely to be horrific. It strikes me as getting mad at someone for “bringing down the mood” and in my opinion this is already not a “high mood” situation.
All the best comrade, I mean nothing in disrespect
Same here, no disrespect
It’s just the criticizing their realpolitik is so clearly devoid of real knowledge or analysis and just based on liberal anti-radical vibes knowing the long history of Palestine Israel relations and how major Arab powers in recent times, most notably Saudi Arabia, are normalizing with Israel
They most likely decided this is the strongest they will ever be and decided to not let it go to waste
The commenter should’ve just not said anything or read a bit more before voicing such a strong opinion
do you think the people primarily concerned with the settler retaliation were anticipating a geopolitical change that this is subverting or are they just pissy about the status quo being disrupted?
buying time isn’t worth anything on it’s own you gotta have something coming that benefits from delaying the enemy.