I half agree with him. There is no justification for this violence, and there hasn’t been for decades. And yes, this violence should end now. Israel should surrender.
Haha oh my god, I only made it through the first half, glanced down to your comment, thought it was a keyboard slam, looked up and saw 32 upvotes, got really fucking confused and continued on to the rest of the comment
It’s funny how libs turn into world peace fighting historians overnight completely ignoring what has been happening for years without them knowing or caring
Personally I think a solution where they negotiate a two state solution is more realistic as Israel aren’t going to just all agree to go away because they don’t want to and no one can make them.
What they need is an Israeli good friday agreement
The scenario where Israel agrees to a two state solution that gives a Palestinian state the slightest chance to succeed (like access to freshwater or international trade) is not realistic either and hasn’t been for a long time.
I don’t actually want a two state solution, I want all of Palestine in Palestinian hands. But if I thought there was the slightest chance of a two state agreement that gave Palestinians a chance to form a viable state I would call for that. There isn’t, so of the two wildly unrealistic options I’m going to call for the one I actually want instead of the one which is “more” realistic, whatever that means if you know it is not going to happen.
Eventually Israel are going to have to give in something because there are about as many Palestinians as Israelis so they can’t maintain this level of oppression forever. They also can’t put the palestinians in death camps because of the level of arab backlash they would face (pre Ukraine I also would have said this might upset western support) so the eventual result will have to be some kind of two state solution as things can’t be unsustainable forever. I hope that’s now instead of a hundred years from now. But in Israel the government are all hardline fanatics so them taking the obvious solution seems unlikely. Western support for Israel obviously extends the time they can maintain the current state of affairs as well
They can do, and are doing, a slow genocide. And even that phrasing depends heavily on what you consider “slow”. That will absolutely turn hot before they agree to anything even approaching a realistic solution. In 2018 they killed about 1.5 % of the Palestinian population for peacefully protesting. This year will be much worse. But if we just disagree about how realistic certain unpalatable compromises are and not about how morally all of Palestine should belong to Palestine we can just agree to disagree.
I half agree with him. There is no justification for this violence, and there hasn’t been for decades. And yes, this violence should end now. Israel should surrender.
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Haha oh my god, I only made it through the first half, glanced down to your comment, thought it was a keyboard slam, looked up and saw 32 upvotes, got really fucking confused and continued on to the rest of the comment
whew
laugh out loud
It’s funny how libs turn into world peace fighting historians overnight completely ignoring what has been happening for years without them knowing or caring
Personally I think a solution where they negotiate a two state solution is more realistic as Israel aren’t going to just all agree to go away because they don’t want to and no one can make them.
What they need is an Israeli good friday agreement
The scenario where Israel agrees to a two state solution that gives a Palestinian state the slightest chance to succeed (like access to freshwater or international trade) is not realistic either and hasn’t been for a long time.
I think it’s very unrealistic but is something that could conceivably happen unlike them deciding to just pack up the entire country and go
I don’t actually want a two state solution, I want all of Palestine in Palestinian hands. But if I thought there was the slightest chance of a two state agreement that gave Palestinians a chance to form a viable state I would call for that. There isn’t, so of the two wildly unrealistic options I’m going to call for the one I actually want instead of the one which is “more” realistic, whatever that means if you know it is not going to happen.
Eventually Israel are going to have to give in something because there are about as many Palestinians as Israelis so they can’t maintain this level of oppression forever. They also can’t put the palestinians in death camps because of the level of arab backlash they would face (pre Ukraine I also would have said this might upset western support) so the eventual result will have to be some kind of two state solution as things can’t be unsustainable forever. I hope that’s now instead of a hundred years from now. But in Israel the government are all hardline fanatics so them taking the obvious solution seems unlikely. Western support for Israel obviously extends the time they can maintain the current state of affairs as well
They can do, and are doing, a slow genocide. And even that phrasing depends heavily on what you consider “slow”. That will absolutely turn hot before they agree to anything even approaching a realistic solution. In 2018 they killed about 1.5 % of the Palestinian population for peacefully protesting. This year will be much worse. But if we just disagree about how realistic certain unpalatable compromises are and not about how morally all of Palestine should belong to Palestine we can just agree to disagree.