I’ve heard of piped due to the piped-link bot, but I am curious about others.

    • lukas@lemmy.haigner.meEnglish
      19·
      1 year ago

      Friendly reminder that Grayjay is only source-available.

      FUTO Temporary License (FTL) violates the following open-source principles:

      • Open source licenses must allow free redistribution. FTL allows license suspension and termination at any time, without notice, for any or no reason.
      • Open source licenses must allow source code distribution. FTL allows restrictions to access the code at any time, without notice, for any or no reason.
      • Open source licenses must allow modifications. FTL allows modifications only for non-commercial use, or maybe not even that. FTL dodges the word modifications here, no clue.
      • Open source licenses must explicitly allow distribution of software built from modified source code. FTL forbids distribution of software built from modified source code for commercial use.
      • Open source licenses must not discriminate against persons/groups and fields of endeavor. FTL allows license suspension and termination at any time, without notice, for any or no reason.

      The FTL enables the following practices:

      • Copyright holders can change the license terms.
      • Copyright holders can re-license everything.
      • Copyright holders can target specific groups and individuals with discriminatory license terms.
      • Copyright holders can close source everything.
      • Copyright holders can forbid specific groups and individuals from using their work.

      My main gripe here is that the video sells a source-available software with severe usage restrictions as open-source. These restrictions may sound reasonable to people outside of the open-source world, especially to people who use similar wording in their own terms of service, but nobody would touch your software with a ten foot pole with a software license like that.

    • Nix@merv.newsEnglish
      122·
      1 year ago

      Only on android :/ i thought it was going to be a progressive web app

      • jeebus@kbin.social
        133·
        1 year ago

        I almost switched to iPhone, thankfully this came out to show me why that is a bad idea. I just need to de-gpogle.

        • Norah - She/They@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          92·
          1 year ago

          Wait, why would this one app currently only being available on Android make switching a bad idea? Seems like a weird thing to base a decision that big on…

          • Chewy@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
            2·
            1 year ago

            It’s more about the ability for such apps to exist. Other apps include Tachiyomi (manga reader) and similar apps that are not allowed because of the app stores terms of service.

            Hopefully Apple will soon be forced to allow such apps to exist outside of their store. Freedom to install what I want is a main reason I switched back from an iPhone to a Pixel with GrapheneOS.

              • Chewy@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
                1·
                1 year ago

                Thanks for the link. I’m surprised it survived Apple’s review process as I thought such apps weren’t allowed. Now I have a private YouTube altednative to recommend.

                Tachiyomi relies on installing sources as additional apks because otherwise they’d have to update the app daily. This is not allowed on Play/App Store.

                YouTube ReVanced and other patched apps are also great and not obviously not possible on iOS bexlcause of restrictions.

        • Nix@merv.newsEnglish
          53·
          1 year ago

          This one app to use a google service stopped you from moving away from a google operating system? Lol

        • Free Palestine 🇵🇸@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          11·
          1 year ago

          If you plan to get a new phone, get a Google Pixel and install GrapheneOS on it. By default, it doesn’t have any Google spyware services. It also has substantial security improvements compared to normal Android. It’s probably the most private and secure mobile operating system that currently exists.

    • Arghblarg@lemmy.caEnglish
      8·
      1 year ago

      Yow! that looks pretty awesome. I installed it and added the Nebula plugin… wonder if there’s a CuriosityStream one as well?

    • PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocksBEnglish
      41·
      1 year ago

      Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

      here

      Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

      I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.

  • rush@lemm.eeEnglish
    25·
    1 year ago

    Web

    For the web, there is Piped (github.com/teampiped/piped) and Invidious (invidious.io)

    NOTE: Only Piped proxies your videos, which means invidious allows connections directly to Google to load the video.

    Android

    On Android, there’s NewPipe and LibreTube which are well known by now.

    NOTE: LibreTube uses Piped to preserve privacy and (somewhat) anonymity when watching, thus you’ll need to select some piped instance with it.

    iOS

    On iOS, there’s the web frontends and Yattee (github.com/yattee/yattee).

    NOTE: Yattee is on the AppStore, but without any sources/instances by default. Look for “instances” in the settings and add a Piped API URL, like https://pipedapi.kavin.rocks to watch videos from YouTube with Piped+Yattee.

    Desktop

    On Desktop, there is all the web clients as well as FreeTube (freetubeapp.io).

    NOTE: FreeTube has an option to proxy everything or just the videos through Invidious to preserve privacy. It is recommended to enable this.

  • nickiam2@aussie.zoneEnglish
    192·
    1 year ago

    GrayJay just came out into the testing phase. It not only supportsYouTubee but also Nebula, Odysee, Twitch, PeerTube and a few others with more to come. Works great so far. grayjay.app. Built by Futo, a nonprofit company which Louis Rossmann works for. His video here

  • figaro@lemdro.idEnglish
    183·
    1 year ago

    GrayJay just launched and it’s fucking fantastic.

    It combines YouTube and Twitch into one platform in a really intuitive way. Has its own comment system and rating system for videos. No ads obviously. It’s a whole fucking thing and it’s incredible.

    https://grayjay.app/index.html

    • sir_reginald@lemmy.worldEnglish
      123·
      1 year ago

      and it’s not free software. only source available with a license that doesn’t allow forking.

        • yum13241@lemm.eeEnglish
          61·
          1 year ago

          Which they could already do, with basic trademark law and just forcing all derivatives to be non-commercial. Cyrptominers are commercial.

      • ExLisper@linux.communityEnglish
        22·
        1 year ago

        So what’s the actual problem is? It’s just a front end to other platforms, they will not lock you in and than break the app. You can use it and if it goes bad you switch to other front end. I would understand the ‘not free’ objections if it was a tool you introduce into our workflow that would later be hard to replace. Here there’s no lock in. What do you care if it can be forked?

        • Chewy@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          3·
          1 year ago

          Some people (including me) care about software freedom. The ability to fork and redistribute software while continuing to publish any changes to the code is great.

          Not using an open source license but a source available license is not something that I like to see, but it’s their right to do so. There’re enough open source YouTube frontends like NewPipe and LibreTube.

          PS: What I really don’t like is them using the term open source. Open source is a well known term that’s well defined. Source available describes exactly what this app is without implying the freedoms associated with open source.

          https://opensource.org/osd/

          • ExLisper@linux.communityEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            With some tools open source has many advantages, with others it’s mostly about transparency. IMHO this case is the latter case. You won’t gain much by being able to fork it. I don’t like it when people criticize projects only because those don’t align with their personal philosophy. Don’t use it if you don’t like it but there’s really no good reason for others to avoid it.

            • Chewy@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
              3·
              1 year ago

              All people have their priorities. For most people on this community it’s probably being free of cost but for some freedom is also important.

              I also don’t recommend against using software that’s not perfect according to my personal philosophy, but I think it’s important to point out any advantages and disadvanages so that anyone can decide for themselves. As I said, most people on here won’t care about the difference between source available and open source.

              it’s mostly about transparency

              Good point. If they’d use the term source available I’d have nothing to say. The reason I’m so pedantic is because increasingly businesses try to gain good publicity by calling their software open source while using Business Source License and similar, which are source available licenses.

              I’ll definitly follow this project and look where it’s going.

    • soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      76·
      1 year ago

      Except you have to give one app credentials for all of your platforms. It’s also 335MB!?

        • soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          215·
          1 year ago

          Time to upgrade your SSD because the new call of duty is 175GB lol.

          What a fucking mindset you have on you there 💀

              • AtmaJnana@lemmy.worldEnglish
                21·
                1 year ago

                Have you looked at the size of most apps recently? 350mb is slightly on the big side, but nothing crazy.

                • lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
                  22·
                  1 year ago

                  I’m not saying it in relative terms, but in absolute terms. 350 MB is lots of space that can be useful, it’s certainly not “close to nothing”.

                  Like, I fear to imagine how much shipping fic would I have to publish annually in order to fill 350 MB in my lifetime…

      • Jack.@lemmy.mlEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        It’s the universal build. Download for your architecture (arm64) which is 127 mb

  • JakenVeina@lemm.eeEnglish
    11·
    1 year ago

    SmartTube is excellent on our NVidia Shield. Not sure what other platforms it works on.

    • Dem BosainEnglish
      5·
      1 year ago

      Seconding SmartTube on android TV. No ads, can automatically skip all sorts of content in videos (spoken ads, self-promotion, introduction segments, etc. etc. etc.) I dread the day it stops working.

  • guts@lemmy.mlEnglish
    10·
    1 year ago

    Best overall SmartTube for Android TV and NewPipe with SponsorBlock for Android.

  • 🦊 OneRedFox 🦊@beehaw.orgEnglish
    6·
    1 year ago

    I’ve been enjoying Piped for awhile now; it actually shows me a feed that’s exclusively my subscriptions and has SponsorBlock built in.