• UniquesNotUseful@lemmy.world
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      Did you have healthcare before Russia invaded Ukraine and started murdering babies? Was it even on the cards?

      It’s not an economic factor either. US health costs are much higher than other developed nations. It spends 17% of GDP, almost double of Germany (next highest).

      Spending is without the positive outcomes. Infant mortality of 5.4 deaths per 1,000 live births (17,000 extra dead babies a year Vs an average.rate), for context you are worse than Russia with 4.9 but better tha Chile 5.9). 23.8 maternal deaths per 100,000 births being 3 times higher than most wealthy nations.

      The economic considerations are that you have a lot of heath businesses. If you socialised medicine and reduced spend, you may improve health outcomes but how would they pay for the very nice buildings they have loans for?

      Finally, US doesn’t want universal healthcare as a society. Whilst they may be financially wrecked by costs and live shorter more painful lives, that is far preferential than seeing the low income family get the same free cancer treatment for their child.

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        Nice rhetoric. I’ve wanted healthcare since 2009, when the “Yes we can” guy didn’t. Your talking points have been disproven and Americans polled overwhelmingly want nationalized healthcare. Source. You provided no source because you pulled it out of your actuarial ass.

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        1 year ago

        Did you have healthcare before Russia invaded Ukraine

        Yes, I did until they sent me a letter informing me that they were booting me off my Medicare for All plan and converting it into artillery shells for the Kherson offensive.

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      We aren’t getting it eitherway, so in the meantime, at least some of our weapons are being used to defend against an imperial power, instead of to advance one.

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        You think the US isn’t funding Ukraine to advance its own imperial interests?

        You truly think we’re just doing it because we just love “democracy” so much, or something like that?

        Buddy, an imperial power is winning either way.

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        I don’t think the next generation is going to accept that excuse, nor should they. Enlightened Centrism is what got us to this point.