• UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    What was this moment, then?

    libs-owned

    And where did those “for every animal you don’t eat, I will eat three” shirts come from?

    Some of it is conscious performative assholery.

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        No. It isn’t. I’ve seen it, personally, from people in my real life, in person. My mom’s boyfriend, one of my sister’s partners, like half the people my dad invited to his wedding. Carnists love to brag about how much meat they eat. It absolutely is performative for quite a lot of them.

        I even have a theory as to why you haven’t noticed it (which I admit I could be wrong about). Here’s my theory: you’re not vegan. Just like cis people often fail to recognize when they’re performing gender, carnists often fail to realize that they eat performatively, because it’s “normal” and “everyone” acts the same.

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          Agreed. I’ve known these people too and I’m unfortunately related to some of them.

          But for that particular person you replied to, that can’t possibly be because “LE STEAK IS LE DELICIOUS” and anything you say contrary to that is “EMBARRASSING” and you’re “TOO ONLINE” if you disagree with them. grill-broke

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        The internet and the offline world are not that separated anymore. It’s almost impossible to function in contemporary society without an online presence.

        What is your goal here, anyway?

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            Being that mad about a perceived threat to your le delicious le steaks is embarrassing to me, as is being this very online about what you are accusing everyone else of being very online about.

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                I don’t play the “u r very online u looser” game.

                It’s too bad you’re making it this personal and vengeful over… what? Carnism?

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                  She’s literally been on an anti-vegan crusade for days now. Her comments keep getting removed but nothing changes and no one’s threatening her with anything more serious than that. Really sucks.

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                    I understand, though it’s unavoidable for it to be an ideological issue now.

                    Even now, I am one of those people that still believes less meat consumption is still a start and that outright complete abolition, while ideal, isn’t likely to win over an already fickle general population that’s spent generations normalizing the highest meat consumption rates in the world, unprecedentedly. The fact that carnist ideology is so widespread and aggressively entrenched makes an all-or-nothing approach only escalate the defensive reaction toward criticism. It’s rough.