• nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    I can’t say I agree, but maybe I wasn’t clear. Ukraine has a government that is internationally recognized, people got to vote. I don’t have any say in what my government in the US does, but I /do/ have a government and I could vote if I wanted to. Palestinians in Gaza do not. Whether either party deserves what’s happened to the average people involved wasn’t addressed at all in my comment, but to be clear: they do not.

    Bad faith interpretations from nine day old accounts who curiously haven’t defined pronouns shouldn’t really be entertained seriously.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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      1 year ago

      Ukraine has a government that is internationally recognized, people got to vote.

      A big part of recent Ukrainian politics involved a series of coups and a deliberate effort by Western politicians to disenfranchise Easterners - particularly Russian-speaking Slavs.

      I don’t have any say in what my government in the US does, but I /do/ have a government and I could vote if I wanted to. Palestinians in Gaza do not.

      The whole problem with politics in Gaza is that the Israelis regularly track, arrest, and assassinate anyone in Gaza that gets near a position of political authority. This isn’t merely a voting problem.

      Ukraine has had similar problem, in so far as its leadership was crippled under Euromaidan protests of 2014 and its Parliament plagued by foreign interventions on all fronts. The nation isn’t sovereign in any meaningful sense. It is simply a satrap that’s caught between larger empires. Certainly not as bad as the open air prison of Gaza (at least until the invasion) but still not what I’d call autonomous or democratic in any serious sense.

      Bad faith interpretations from nine day old accounts who curiously haven’t defined pronouns shouldn’t really be entertained seriously.

      Idk if I’m going to throw a flag on someone for failing to set their pronouns in profile. That seems like a cheap shot.