• mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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    Mandatory service in army doing war crimes on the regular, courts falling under right-wing control because apparently that’s the style of the time, constantly declaring any criticism or even the barest sympathy for Palestinians as intolerable antisemitism deserving retribution…

    Just because Netanyahu hasn’t had anyone sawed to pieces doesn’t mean the state isn’t all kinds of fucked up. Egypt’s a barely functional military-run bureaucracy, and they manage to commit considerably fewer genocide-adjacent activities.

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      1 year ago

      Yeah, Israel is genociding so hard and so successfully that the Arab population in Israel grows the fastest.

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        Are you suggesting that there is a connection between genocidal attacks on a people and their population growth? And do you really think that the peoples with the highest birth rates are doing best? Would you mind explaining how you came to this conclusion? Because I actually believe that, on the contrary, the peoples with the fewest children are doing best.

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        Jesus fuck, please make clear you have “birth-rates” memorized, in your argument about who’s a bigot.

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          I don’t even know what you’re trying to tell me with that.

          Good on you for keeping the oldschool Internet discussion culture alive with senseless cursing.

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            You want it dry?

            Your argument is an irrelevant fallacy, and you should feel bad.

            I am unimpressed by your tone policing.

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              Genocide means the killing of an ethnicity. Arab birth rates in Israel are flourishing. Hence, Israel is doing a bad job at eradicating them.

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                Are you aware of the fact that there are more Jewish people living on this planet than ever before? Do you really want to deny the Holocaust based on this fact?

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                  Well, yeah, their population recovered from an actual attempt at Genocide but that is decades ago, obviously.

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                And that makes eradicating Palestine okay, apparently.

                Everybody relax! More similar-looking brown people we born nearby, so the hundreds killed just this month do not count.

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                  Israeli occupation of Gaza ended in 2005 and they had the opportunity of self-determination. Elections were held and terrorists won. Bra-fucking-vo. Attacks on Israel piled up so they had to build a fence around the Gaza Strip. All due to terrorist action. Why didn’t Palis oust Hamas by now?

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                    The Palestinians elected an organization that they considered less corrupt than the Fatah. An organization that had worked hard to win the hearts of Palestinians by doing a great job in education, healthcare, and feeding of Palestinians. For many years they could do that job so convincingly by the financial support of Israel and the US. And they committed acts of violence against Israel that many people considered terrorism. While other called it a fight for freedom of the Palestinians. They got elected but the West didn’t accept the outcome of that election. And Israel refused to negotiate with the new government. I think Israel loved that outcome, because they didn’t want to negotiate anyway. And while Israel requires a Palestinian government recognizing Israel’s right to exist before negotiating, it is doing everything it can to prevent the establishment of a viable Palestinian state.

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                    They blockaded Gaza.

                    This is why there was swearing. I’m not allowed to just treat you like any normal person could face-to-face, when you do a terrible job of lying to them. Any label for your behavior might not be nice. But it’s still fucking bullshit, and I need to express that exasperation.

                    Treating this garbage as a good-faith argument would be a lie. I refuse. You keep spitting irrelevant excuses that cover up control, bigotry, and violence. You need to fucking stop.