• thatsage@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    So what’s beautiful about this is that even if I were to agree with you about whether or not Israel is an apartheid state, and if there is theft of land or not - and make no mistake those things are serious and evil when true - then they are still very far from genocide, I believe the intent of that comment by “mindless murdering”, which is the clear open objective and stance of Hamas.

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      8 months ago

      then they are still very far from genocide,

      No it’s not. There are actual pogroms going on in the West Bank right now.

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            8 months ago

            This is not a genocide. Some of these are horrible incidents of innocents hurt, and justice must be served for any settler or rogue soldier involved.

            But this is far from genocide and certainly isolated instances.

            If you call this genocide, you kill the meaning of that word.

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              8 months ago

              But this is far from genocide and certainly isolated instances.

              How so? This has been a consistent trend going as far back as 1967 and many times has been actually encouraged by the government. Hell, the first settlement in the West Bank was created by falsely confiscating land for “military use” even though it was meant for settlement.

              Look, if the government’s policy ranges from turning a blind eye to it to actively encouraging it, while assisting it either way through IDF security and not responding to Palestinians when they call the police, it stops being isolated incidents and starts becoming a systematic effort. And what do we call a systematic effort to vacate people from their lands in large numbers to create Lebensraum?

              Yes, genocide.

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                8 months ago

                No, what we call genocide is:

                The deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.