It feels like it’s been since “I’m a Little Bit Country” that Matt and Trey really pulled a one off on both “sides”. So much hate and love from both conservatives and liberals, wherever you look. They absolutely nailed this episode and I hope it opens our eyes to the reality of culture war bullshit.

But the best part of the episode was the labor/tech/billionaire plot. The dumbing down of society, flipant billionaires doing fuck all they want, AI taking over white collar jobs, college education being bullshit, trade work holding more value… It’s a sub plot that is not political but the most important satire that they have produced. The Twitter freaks are arguing over “woke” and missing the entire fucking point!

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    Enough with the “both sides” stuff. The A-plot of the episode was designed to poke fun at “woke casting” while simultaneously making the whole argument look ridiculous, and it did this very well. I don’t think this was written to portray the attitudes of “both sides” of the casting argument, and it would have been way less funny if it did. In the course of poking fun at “woke casting” it seems to have bothered a lot of socially/politically progressive people in the same way “Buddha Box” and “Board Girls” did because they don’t think the issue is appropriate for satire, which is partially what makes it so funny in the first place.

    South Park has always taken aim at the moral/social standards Americans take for granted, it’s just that whatever ‘political correctness’ means to people has become much more prominent as a moral/social standard in many parts of the country and in the public discourse than it was 20-25 years ago. It’s ok to make fun of the same way it was ok to have an episode where a statue of the Virgin Mary bleeds out her vagina, and Matt and Trey don’t (and shouldn’t) create content that “treats both sides equally” because 1) that wouldn’t be funny if it’s forced and 2) there are usually more than two sides to most social/political issues anyway.

    “I’m a Little Bit Country” was really the exception to the rule in that it was explicitly built around making a “both sides” point, but in general the show is great because it doesn’t pull its punches on its principle targets by weighing it down with trying to develop a “both sides” approach.

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      Enough with the “both sides” stuff. The A-plot of the episode was designed to poke fun at “woke casting” while simultaneously making the whole argument look ridiculous

      Isn’t that literally what they’re talking about? You just made an argument about how they don’t play both sides then in the same argument, provided an example of them playing both sides

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    Peak yeah the a peak piece of shit, a peak waste of fucking time. That episode was fucking garbage. Quit trying to find some hidden message in it. It’s another lazy ass garbage fucking episode just like the last bullshit 6episode seasons. Most importantly is the peak of not funny. Peak ugh……

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      It’s another lazy ass garbage fucking episode just like the last bullshit 6episode seasons. Most importantly is the peak of not funny. Peak ugh……

      so you got a college education?

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    I didn’t really care for this episode, the overall message felt very shallow and also shows a complete misunderstanding of who Kathleen Kennedy is at what she does at Disney (she’s just the president of Lucasfilm, she has no control over casting or story decisions at marvel studios or Disney proper).

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    Meh… honestly I think they took the easiest jabs from current reddit trends…

    It is easy now to make joke of Disney, Billonaires, Woke culture. I did not see any “break through” on this one.

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      The episode is damage control in the form of aggressive softballing, Cartman is a strawman being put up against the most benevolent interpretation of woke casting possible. Also Miles is a nothing parasitic character

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      They used to create the reddit trends (before reddit, when it was forums and shit) but now it seems they’re doing exactly what you said

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        Who dosnt plagarise reddit ?

        Half of the news sites out their base their news on Reddit posts.

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      I completely agree. The entire watch I was thinking, did Matt and Trey just pull everything from what is trending on reddit… tbh, it seemed a little lazy and didn’t even hold my attention. They tried the multiverse thing wayy too late and I felt exactly how the characters did, oh great, this again. I was pretty disappointed in it tbh, but hoping the next whatever they release is better. I feel Matt and Trey are kinda over it though…

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    This special made me want more! Can’t believe they only made it a one-parter!

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    This special/episode was definitely great. Panderverse is definitely a home run, but I wouldn’t say peak.

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    Peak?? Peak was 15 years ago. Sure its good now but it’s not ‘peak’.

    Peak south park is timeless, not rooted in contemporary politics.

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      Peak South Park is undeniably the first three seasons. I think the new special showed flashes of greatness. It reminded me of old South Park

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          AWESOM-O is one of my favorite episodes of all time. Season 8 and I don’t remember much politics in it at all

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        yeah it was in the background but the focus was on kids doing ridiculous shit. now the focus is just on the issues first and then use the kids to get their point across. Honestly, they’re clearly still capable of writing great stuff, but the praise for this special is way overblown, it just confirmed how most Redditors already think.

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          This was the exact complaint I had about the show and got downvoted for it here before the new special dropped. I thought Panderverse was hilarious though, I’m not complaining for now

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        There are plenty of episodes not rooted in contemporary politics. I I’d gather to say that a lot of the ones you’re thinking of weren’t politics but current events. But they’re point is that the peak South Park eps are timeless. Ex. Imaginationland.

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      Idu the high praise. It was alright 5/10. This “special” felt like they played it too safe. And where the hell was mr. Mouse!?

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      Peak south park is timeless, not rooted in contemporary politics.

      says you.

      this was absolutely spot on with everything.

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        I didn’t say this special was bad, actually I thought it was pretty damn good! But modern south park is focusing on the culture wars and other shit that no one really gives two shits about.

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      Age. There were episodes in season 7-13 that wouldn’t let me breath. The samari episode, Jesus.

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    I haven’t watched the Panderverse special yet, but…all I care about is “Was it funny?” I don’t really give a shit about what did or didn’t align with my sociopolitical views. There’s been plenty of that I’ve agreed with in South Park, and a lot where I thought they missed the mark.

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    Idk about peak, I found myself agreeing more than laughing and I’d prefer to have the opposite or at least 50/50. Just didn’t find it that funny IMO.

    Somebody said if you find yourself clapping more than you laugh at a comedy show you’re at a rally. Or something like that.

    South Park is first and foremost a comedy show with its focus being political satire