I think you might not understand what they are joking about.
They say there isn’t a second season because they don’t consider the one we have to be a “valid” season, because they think it was bad.
That’s explained by the muscle memory of the sleeve that he’s in. A mouth that has only practiced pronouncing American English will not have the neural pathways to pronounce words in a Japanese way. The consciousness and memories transfer but the sleeve doesn’t change.
It’s a convenient plot device but also it fits the narrative cleanly.
I guess the only reason why that seemed unconvincing to me is that I’m not one of those people who can have someone tell me their name, then immediately pronounce it totally wrong, repeatedly. I grew up believing these people were just straight up being racist and making fun of them. I guess it actually does make sense though. Japanese people are largely incapable of pronouncing anything other than Japanese too. Actually of people I have heard trying to replicate a pronunciation after hearing it, with multiple tries, Japanese people may even be the worst. American English speakers just somehow seem offensive when they can’t do it.
I still feel like if it were me I could have retrained my vocal capabilities to be at least 60% as before in a year at worst though. I can’t imagine not being able to pronounce my own name correctly, especially in the case of japanese in any non japanese body. It’s like “Hi I’m Tah-kesh’ee. I’m absolutely truly not a weeb. I’m actually japanese, I swear. It’s just that I can roll my R’s and differentiate them from L’s. Nah Roo Toes? The little spiral fish discs? I love 'em to bits. Oh you met my brother Die Soo Key? Oh no, you pronounced his name right, I just can’t do it because my body is American.”
Fuck I just reminded myself of the three separate times when I was still in school thay we had homestay students named Daisuke. My parents kept calling him dai suki, pronounced fairly close to how a japanese person would pronounce daisuki. It made me die inside every time I saw their facial expression react. Like a hint of “are they trying to demonstrate the japanese words they learned? What a bizarre choice though” that quickly fades to “oh. They meant my name…”
What about being a wee bit excited for more and better treatments for the future?
That’s covered in other threads. Right now we are being depressed by the grim reality that quality Healthcare is quickly becoming out of reach for a lot of Americans, and the Americans who might have access, can’t really afford it anyway.
What do you even mean by this? Those issues are important, but familial hypercholemia also affects 34 million people. A treatment like this would be helpful for people across all classes
This is a problem now, especially in America where people avoid going to the doctor even though they’re pretty sure it’s cancer, but they are out of a job right now and have no idea how they would be able to afford treatment or the time off from work.
The argument isn’t to not develop these things, the argument is to not let rich people become immortal while everyone else stays mortal, but spread the good among everyone.
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Have you seen the documentary Altered Carbon? It covers this scenario.
Great show. It’s a shame we never ever got another season.
If they ever do a second season, I’d love it if they refrained from trying to shoehorn in any radical changes.
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I think you might not understand what they are joking about. They say there isn’t a second season because they don’t consider the one we have to be a “valid” season, because they think it was bad.
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Was that the one with a japanese guy in a white body that pronounces his own name like an American?
That’s explained by the muscle memory of the sleeve that he’s in. A mouth that has only practiced pronouncing American English will not have the neural pathways to pronounce words in a Japanese way. The consciousness and memories transfer but the sleeve doesn’t change.
It’s a convenient plot device but also it fits the narrative cleanly.
I guess the only reason why that seemed unconvincing to me is that I’m not one of those people who can have someone tell me their name, then immediately pronounce it totally wrong, repeatedly. I grew up believing these people were just straight up being racist and making fun of them. I guess it actually does make sense though. Japanese people are largely incapable of pronouncing anything other than Japanese too. Actually of people I have heard trying to replicate a pronunciation after hearing it, with multiple tries, Japanese people may even be the worst. American English speakers just somehow seem offensive when they can’t do it.
I still feel like if it were me I could have retrained my vocal capabilities to be at least 60% as before in a year at worst though. I can’t imagine not being able to pronounce my own name correctly, especially in the case of japanese in any non japanese body. It’s like “Hi I’m Tah-kesh’ee. I’m absolutely truly not a weeb. I’m actually japanese, I swear. It’s just that I can roll my R’s and differentiate them from L’s. Nah Roo Toes? The little spiral fish discs? I love 'em to bits. Oh you met my brother Die Soo Key? Oh no, you pronounced his name right, I just can’t do it because my body is American.”
Fuck I just reminded myself of the three separate times when I was still in school thay we had homestay students named Daisuke. My parents kept calling him dai suki, pronounced fairly close to how a japanese person would pronounce daisuki. It made me die inside every time I saw their facial expression react. Like a hint of “are they trying to demonstrate the japanese words they learned? What a bizarre choice though” that quickly fades to “oh. They meant my name…”
I love this. The somehow nuanced yet obvious humor that picks up on how extremists call pure facts of fiction documentaries.
I’m going to start calling everything a documentary from now on.
That’s a so boring trope IMO. Like stop inventing insulin, heart transplants and cancer treatments, only the rich will get it!!
What about being a wee bit excited for more and better treatments for the future?
That’s covered in other threads. Right now we are being depressed by the grim reality that quality Healthcare is quickly becoming out of reach for a lot of Americans, and the Americans who might have access, can’t really afford it anyway.
Because most of the people complaining, I imagine, live in the US.
What do you even mean by this? Those issues are important, but familial hypercholemia also affects 34 million people. A treatment like this would be helpful for people across all classes
I think what they’re getting at is that most people wouldn’t be able to afford this treatment.
This is a problem now, especially in America where people avoid going to the doctor even though they’re pretty sure it’s cancer, but they are out of a job right now and have no idea how they would be able to afford treatment or the time off from work.
The solution could be something else than stopping research maybe?
Universal Healthcare would be a good start.
Well yeah duh
Well that’s a dumb position to take since nearly every technology is only for the rich when it was invented
The argument isn’t to not develop these things, the argument is to not let rich people become immortal while everyone else stays mortal, but spread the good among everyone.
That’s not the argument I was replying to
It’s basically the plot to Altered Carbon. Rich can afford new bodies, poor people can’t so the rich live forever and the poor die young.