This is the kind of drivel which gets posted to that sub regarding why they should care China is “stealing their data” :
if they get enough data, then they can use machine learning to find patterns effectively reading the mind of an average american. The govt can then push specially crafted propaganda aimed at destroying your faith in country, and seed ideas like resisting the chinese is in vain and you should surrender.
With enough time the population will get weaker and starts to fear any retaliation against the chinese because they are TOO STRONG (they are in your mind). Without public support Democratic govts can’t do shit ultimately causing US to crumble down and even taken over by chinese.
Data is dangerous.
I’d like to think this is a joke because I would write something like this as a bit, but I’ve seen a similar argument 1000 times by now.
One of the senators in the tiktok hearing basically insinuated that China was installing a communism activation word in the heads of Americans.
To put it mildly, Americans are not an intellectual people.
if they get enough data, then they can use machine learning to find patterns effectively reading the mind of an average american.
It’s not hard you just take literally any issue no matter how pointless or obvious the solution and half the country will think it’s good and the other half will think it’s bad. America can only process new problems through the lens of adversarial politics where nothing can get done. Ultimately because the US constitution is the worst legal framework in history so they can’t campaign on actual policy
the complicated statistical analysis necessary to predict American patterns is a coin flip. Of course the UK is simpler just ask what would an incredibly corrupt person do and there you have it the UK government
and the Chinese wouldn’t want to intrude in the excellent job the US government is doing at destroying American faith in their country
if they get enough data, then they can use machine learning to find patterns effectively reading the mind of an average american. The govt can then push specially crafted propaganda aimed at destroying your faith in country, and seed ideas like resisting the chinese is in vain and you should surrender.
That’s not how “machine learning” works. Do they think they live in a marvel movie?
You don’t need special algorithms to read the mind of the average American. The American brainpan consists of “car good, racism, queerphobia, kill the homeless, CONSUME” and that really covers 99% of what goes on in the average American’s head.
I don’t think the cretin making the post on can adequately explain why they are so terrified without resorting to blatant racism and westoid fantasies. But the existential crisis for the west is that capitialism has run out of road with data, attention and platforms the last all important commodities to shape and dominate what is left of the economy. Your attention is a zero sum game for them and the data is the all important fuel.
The majority of people have huge data footprints with fragments of themselves everywhere. Yet is there any real example of blackmail with all this data? I remember reading a quater of Soshana Zuboff’s Surveillience Capitialism before I could take no more of needlessly prolonged lib storytelling. Are there any worse examples of this specifically ruining somebodies life other then a ruined engagement? Like if somebody who made it to the end of that drivel enlight us that would be great or correct me where I am worng about data.
Substance is buried beneath the libbery. The relevant bit: capitalist conditions have changed. Surveillance capitalism brings new rules distinct from those of industrial or finance capital. I mean we did have massive towers of data driven wealth arise and multiply in very short order. This also means new repression will operate differently from the fascism of the past
As a Zuboff has fluffy, vibes based ideas on what to do about it, and a very cute belief that the West has meaningful democracy, eg the concept that top level decision making behind closed doors is new
Disclaimer: I am a babby on theory, open to correction from real vanguard ppl
what does this person think China will do with this information you live in another country dipshit china can’t arrest you
Xi Jinping is personally jerking it to my noods!
Are you
enough to slide into Xi’s DMs?
All the pics I take of my feet are actually a matter of national security, sweaty.
They can just buy the information from data brokers anyhow
this person doesn’t seem to appreciate that the chinese government is too busy managing the chinese state to give a shit about them
Yeah that too
from amazon or whoever, who they’ll happily give their information to and who have way more ability to fuck with them
This is the kind of drivel which gets posted to that sub regarding why they should care China is “stealing their data” :
I’d like to think this is a joke because I would write something like this as a bit, but I’ve seen a similar argument 1000 times by now.
One of the senators in the tiktok hearing basically insinuated that China was installing a communism activation word in the heads of Americans.
To put it mildly, Americans are not an intellectual people.
It’s not hard you just take literally any issue no matter how pointless or obvious the solution and half the country will think it’s good and the other half will think it’s bad. America can only process new problems through the lens of adversarial politics where nothing can get done. Ultimately because the US constitution is the worst legal framework in history so they can’t campaign on actual policy
the complicated statistical analysis necessary to predict American patterns is a coin flip. Of course the UK is simpler just ask what would an incredibly corrupt person do and there you have it the UK government
and the Chinese wouldn’t want to intrude in the excellent job the US government is doing at destroying American faith in their country
That’s not how “machine learning” works. Do they think they live in a marvel movie?
Yes
You don’t need special algorithms to read the mind of the average American. The American brainpan consists of “car good, racism, queerphobia, kill the homeless, CONSUME” and that really covers 99% of what goes on in the average American’s head.
“hot diggedy damn! i sure as shootin’ have a hankerin’ for a tasty burger!” fires revolvers into the sky
I don’t think the cretin making the post on
can adequately explain why they are so terrified without resorting to blatant racism and westoid fantasies. But the existential crisis for the west is that capitialism has run out of road with data, attention and platforms the last all important commodities to shape and dominate what is left of the economy. Your attention is a zero sum game for them and the data is the all important fuel.
The majority of people have huge data footprints with fragments of themselves everywhere. Yet is there any real example of blackmail with all this data? I remember reading a quater of Soshana Zuboff’s Surveillience Capitialism before I could take no more of needlessly prolonged lib storytelling. Are there any worse examples of this specifically ruining somebodies life other then a ruined engagement? Like if somebody who made it to the end of that drivel enlight us that would be great or correct me where I am worng about data.
Substance is buried beneath the libbery. The relevant bit: capitalist conditions have changed. Surveillance capitalism brings new rules distinct from those of industrial or finance capital. I mean we did have massive towers of data driven wealth arise and multiply in very short order. This also means new repression will operate differently from the fascism of the past
As a
Zuboff has fluffy, vibes based ideas on what to do about it, and a very cute belief that the West has meaningful democracy, eg the concept that top level decision making behind closed doors is new
Disclaimer: I am a babby on theory, open to correction from real vanguard ppl