IDF says tunnel, outfitted with blast-proof door and firing hole, found alongside booby-trapped vehicle loaded with weapons

  • Luci@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    36
    arrow-down
    9
    ·
    1 year ago

    That’s a funny way to say “fuck civilians.”

    • 5BC2E7@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      9
      ·
      1 year ago

      That’s a funny way to say you have more moral clarity than the Red Cross.

    • samokosik@lemmynsfw.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      18
      arrow-down
      32
      ·
      1 year ago

      Hamas was “fucking civilians” for 18 years by building exactly zero shelters and radicalizing whole population

      • silicon_reverie@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        25
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        Holy whataboutism, Batman, no one is arguing that Hamas is in the right here. What are you even trying to say with this? “Hamas ‘fucks civilians’ which makes them evil… so Israel might as well join in and ‘fuck civilians’ too”?

        Can’t we all just agree that no one should be “fucking civilians” for any reason, because you know, they’re civilians?

        • kick_out_the_jams@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          12
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          The protection of civilians is precisely the reason weapons and armed forces are usually kept far from ANY civilian infrastructure, especially hospitals.

          • silicon_reverie@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            1 year ago

            Yes, which is why turning a hospital or refugee camp into a command post is a war crime. But it also means that attacking a hospital or refugee camp, whether they’re being used as shields for military targets or not, should also not be done lightly. Iron-clad case made beforehand that it is a military target, rigorous scrutiny of the claim evaluated by an independent body after the fact, and the military action against the target has to prioritize the civilians as much as possible. They’re people. Men, women, and children who have nothing to do with the conflict and are simply caught in the crossfire. One side showing a disregard for the life of innocents does not justify the other side doubling down on the same.

        • samokosik@lemmynsfw.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          1 year ago

          We can agree on that both sides should stop harming civilians. Just many people seem to forget the damage Hamas has done by radicalization of the whole population. Hence why you should never have your base underneath a hospital.