#Memes

  • MJBrune@beehaw.org
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    1 year ago

    I learned this lesson 10 years ago at my first game dev job. The lead artist called himself a game developer and I said “Well I thought developer was a term reserved for engineering.” They gave a long passionate explanation about how it devalues the rest of the industry and that game developer is “one who makes a game”. To say that engineering is the only person to make the game is completely wrong. As I could not, as an engineer of 15+ years now, 10 of those in games, could not make a game entirely myself with just my engineering skills.

    This comic hits home because anyone claiming that game developer is an engineering-only title has never worked on a team project. Anyone who goes in the credits is a game developer. Including random executives to backend developers on the game.

    • onlinepersona@programming.dev
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      1 year ago

      By that same logic, nobody can be a software developer because in order to develop a software project involving 100 people, one needs HR, managers, QA/testing, SREs, sysadmins, architects, finance, …

      Nobody can be a brick layer either because in order to build the Burj Khalifa one needed architects, engineers, glaziers, plumbers, managers, secretaries, fork-lift drivers, truck drivers, etc.

      Every team project has is multi-disciplinary. To claim one discipline doesn’t exist because in order to complete the project all disciplines are necessary, is willingful misrepresentation of facts.

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        1 year ago

        some electricians who work on office buildings are kaijus gamedevs

        (without them, your in-game lamps wouldn’t work.)

      • MJBrune@beehaw.org
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        1 year ago

        No, you’ve reversed my logic. Everyone you named would be a software developer but there is only one team of software engineers. The entire point is that “game developer” isn’t a discipline on the team. It’s a member of the team. It’d be like arguing the term medical professional only means doctors.

        • onlinepersona@programming.dev
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          1 year ago

          It’d be like arguing the term medical professional only means doctors.

          That makes more sense and I agree with it. The way you wrote it (or the way I interpreted it) was like “we’re all doctors because a hospital can’t run without the rest of its staff”. I still disagree that a level designer can be call themselves a game developer. That’d be like a nurse calling themselves a doctor.

          • MJBrune@beehaw.org
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            1 year ago

            A game developer is anyone on the team which creates the game. A level designer is a game developer. A game engineer is the term you are confusing it with. This is common because of the term Software Developer but the developer part of game developer comes from the creation/construction side. Like a property developer or community developer.