Hey there, it’s me. This is just me sharing my opinion on the new special since it panders towards me in a sense.
I agree with every point the special is making; not every movie needs to be this big preach.
Like, as a gay person, I’m tired of Disney, HBO, Netflix, all these big companies that make a blank state out of great material.
Of course there is great gay shows - (The Owl House, Atypical mm.) but those have something else to keep you watching where the gay is front and centre.
Let me use The Owl House as an example. A teenage girl is thrown into a world of demons and must traverse her way back to the human realm.
Cool plot point, right? However by Season 1 episode 16 “Enchanting Grom Fright” it’s made clear that there is going to be a lesbian relationship between the human girl and a demon girl name Amity.
However, they address this in Season 2, Episode 8 “Knock knock knockin on hooty’s door” where Amity and the human girl -Luz get together.
And that’s the last time that it was brought up and the show continued like normal, just with them being in a relationship
I’m getting sidetracked, my point is - there can be homosexuality and social issues in a show with out it “pandering”.
And it also feels like by Disney that they’re trying to “make up” for past homophobia so now they’re really just pushing gayness on to everything they can and use it as a sort of shield, if that makes sense.
Anyway, this is just one gay person’s opinion, feel free to comment your own - straight or not. If you read all this - thank you.
As a gay man, Agreed. You can have a gay couple in a show but you don’t have to make a big deal out of it. THATS where it becomes pandering.
I mean…look at how many “first gay characters” Disneys had in their movies in the last couple years: Onward (a cop who was in one scene, mentioned her wife), Lightyear (a lesbian couple with a kiss and then a few minutes later they’re both dead), Phastos from Eternals (a kiss with his husband and some sweet talk).
Disney made SUCH big deals out of these characters when really only Phastos was a big character. The other two were glorified cameo characters that frankly only seemed like Disney was box-checking.
I mean Alisha from Lightyear was black AND gay AND a woman, that’s almost all the boxes checked……then they immediately kill her AND her wife off. So a character that literally has no development, yet is so progressive.
That being said, they made a lot of comments about Indiana Jones…was Helena in the new one supposed to be a lesbian? I never picked up on that.
Disney does that on purpose to only give the gay characters like 2 or 3 lines so they can get all the woke money from people obsessed with that but can also easily edit the gay characters out to appese China and the Middle East
There was definitely no confirmed sexuality for Helena from what I can remember, so I don’t know what that’s about
Helena was checking out guys multiple times in the film.
No, Helena was not a lesbian. Matter of fact, I think it’s either mentioned or implied that she had a past relationship with one of the male characters in the movie? I only saw it once so can’t remember specifics.
I didn’t quite understand a lot of the Indiana Jones stuff because it felt like they hadn’t actually seen the movie. She’s not a replacement for Indy, she’s one of the sidekick characters, and I never got the sense that she was going to be taking up the mantle. I made a post about it here but was downvoted quite a bit, with people telling me that it was “heavily implied” that she was intended to replace Indy through marketing and behind the scenes comments, but I guess I missed all that. 🤷🏼♂️
You are right. She had a male ex-fiance, was shown to be into the guy on the boat and a group of guys in Sicily.
You didn’t miss anything - you were 100% right. The marketing focused on Indy - the first trailer, Helena was hardly in it. She had one shot, I think.
But we don’t let pesky facts get in the way of our outrage, these days.
You forgot Beauty and the Beast with Lafoue. Don’t forget that Disney felt so strongly about those they edited out his kiss in other regions.
I knew I forgot one!
“So a character that literally has no development, yet is so progressive.”
But the executives have to do that so it will be easy to delete the character if the CCP or some Middle Eastern government told them to, don’t want to risk the profits
That light year situation is lame and gay literally. (and chick too)
They forgot Zootopia where those 2 male antelopes were married to each other.
Okay I forgot that, I don’t think I even realized that. I gotta go back to watch zootopia, it’s been years
I’m writing a book and for everyone who doesn’t have a partner in the book, I was going to go back after finishing to assign sexualities
The only one I had written as a joke was that the drill sgt character is straight, but he is only that way at work and when he gets home he goes into sub mode and does exactly everything as his wife commands, and he essentially just roleplays as her when he goes to work, but looking back I feel like I might be offending somebody
I too love the kill your gays trope
Disney stops Alex Hirsch from making the officers in gravity falls a couple yet also wants all the praise for their 2 second easily edited out cheap “representation”
I’m not American so I don’t follow American media. Was the lightyear couple really a big deal? From my perspective the only ones who cared about it were the ones protesting it. Was there like an official Disney statement promoting this?