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    He owns a major social network and his remarks are regularly repeated in the press. Who or what is harming his free speech? The constitutional right to free speech is protection from the government punishing someone. The advertisers are exercising their right to be associated or not with what happens on “X”.

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      Yeah, some Yung Fucky Dee rapper can flip birds all day, catering to his fans, but he won’t expect that Disney will offer him a collab project. There’s a completely different level of requirements for being a successful major social network owner/ceo

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      Free speech is certainly under threat. Arguments against free speech have never been as popular as they are now in the U.S., for instance.

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        It doesn’t sound like you know what “free speech” means and you didn’t address anything I said about it.

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          “Who or what is harming his free speech” - I never made that claim. You’re talking to your own mind, not mine, and trying to incite a response in me with your dismissive tone. Have a nice day.

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            What? Anyway, I can’t really tell what you’re saying. Hope you have a lovely day too.

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              I don’t agree with the guy above, but what he’s saying is, that he never commented on Musk’s free speech. He’s talking about free speech in general for the regular users on social media platforms.

              And I have no idea where he’s going with the Europe talk. Sounds like he never lived there, that’s for sure.

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                The gist is hate speech is not protected in some European countries. For instance it is straight up illegal to be a Nazi and say Nazi propaganda in Germany.

                The fear is the “left” is going to ban hate speech and they won’t be able to say racist and sexist things anymore.

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                I read it more and gathered that, but it still makes almost no sense as there’s the huge distinction between government restricting your speech and other people reacting to it. Plus, Musk is nowhere near a champion of “free speech” and to think he represents the principle in good faith is a severe delusion.

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        Free speech is in no shape or form under threat here in the USA. People standing up to bigots is not an attack on free speech.