• AFK BRB Chocolate@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    It’s such a ridiculous kind of fake self persecution. No one gets in trouble for saying “Merry Christmas.” Some people choose to say other things that are more inclusive, like “Happy Holidays.” One person saying “Happy Holidays” doesn’t prevent another person from saying “Merry Christmas.”

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    7 months ago

    The war on Christmas will continue until it refrains from the occupation of November.

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      It started because corporations offered guidance to their retail employees that shoppers preferred “Happy Holidays” because it was more inclusive. Retail drones were told what to say, and when Christians got wind of it, they lost their collective brain cell.

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        So those Christians spend December berating retail workers being paid so little they’re forced to rely on food stamps for saying the wrong thing while imagining themselves free speech warriors.

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        As a kid, I always thought it was because it was shorter than “Merry Christmas and Happy New Year,” which was very common until the proliferation of “Happy Holidays” where I grew up. I have to imagine retail employees were glad to cut in half their mandatory goodbye phrase regardless of the reason.

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      I’m an atheist and ethnically Jewish and I’ve never enjoyed Christmas. If anyone would be attacking anyone for saying, “Merry Christmas,” it would be me.

      When someone says “Merry Christmas” to me, my usual response is, “thanks, you too.”

      Because, unlike Conservatives (apparently), I’m okay with people saying something I don’t agree with when they’re just trying to be friendly.

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        Meh, I make a point to say happy holidays back just because I like getting a rise out of idiots.

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      7 months ago

      I mean, I imagine under Nero is was somewhat frowned upon. But since Constantine not really

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    7 months ago

    You can’t say the C-h word, yet there it is, spelled out your comic? (*side eye*)

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      If you are comparing the worse-ness of two words and you won’t even write one of them, that’s the worse word

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        “You can say it. That word you want to say it. I’ll say it with you. Let’s all say it together. N… n… come on. All together now.”

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        7 months ago

        Remind me what this is from? It’s a quote from somebody… A comedian? A nighttime political comedy show?

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    It’s weird - in all the years that I’ve been seeing and hearing this stuff about this “war on Christmas,” the one thing I’ve never seen or even heard of is anybody actually being punished in any way for saying “Merry Christmas.”

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      Well of course, because for all intents and purposes nobody is going to care if you tell them Merry Christmas instead of Happy Holidays, because everyone understands the intent.

      The only people who think there’s a war on Christmas also think not being allowed to enforce their theocracy means they’re being oppressed.

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    The head canons are insane lmfao.

    If a progressive school is sending you to the office for saying Christmas, they’re probably just going to have a chat about being more progressive with our well wishes to include everyone.

    You wanna exclude people that’s fine, but don’t label the people trying to be the most kind as insane or assholes. lol.

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      A progressive school wouldn’t even do that in the first place, because it’s the surest way to get the ever living shit sued out of you over 1A because of one disgruntled parent

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      happy holidays isn’t more inclusive, it’s just generic. i feel included in a community when they salute me as they would with one of their own

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        Which is what you’d use if you didn’t know what religion they practice if at all

        Otherwise, sensibly, you’d wish them a happy whatever it is they celebrate.

        Not everyone is cool with having their religion assumed on so it’s not “generic” it’s respectful

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          I don’t know. a Muslim once saluted me with the end of Ramadan holyday. that day i met a friend. parted ways, we still greet each other when we meet. dude did not assume anything about me, he just wanted to share and make friends. being greeted with one’s culture and being not ok with it, it means you’re not an educated person.

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            I would rather be seen for my own culture and values and not mislabeled

            Moral of the story in case you couldn’t tell from the chunk of downvotes your original post received, people would rather receive a “generic” holiday greeting than to be stereotypically labeled with a religion, or constantly have someone rubbing their faith in your face if you aren’t religious at all.

            “Generic” holiday greeting is more likely to convey:

            “I wish you happy times this holiday season, whatever you do or don’t celebrate”

            As opposed to walking up to a Muslim dude and wish them a happy Ramadan off some shallow ass judgements. Alternatively, wishing me a merry Kwanzaa or a Merry Hanukkah, while it may be important to you, means nothing to me at all. That wish doesn’t have roots. So to me, you’re just a shallow person who doesn’t actually want me to enjoy my holiday time, you just want to cheer for your team.

            Edit: fuck it I’ll bite, pray tell what’s your current religion after meeting your friend?

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              you’d say I’m an atheist. I’m from Italy, where catholicism still heavily influences society. someone in this thread said that my opinion is valid only for me, while you judged and actually insulted me. there’s no conversation in this place. may I know where you’re from?

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                7 months ago

                Where in my comments have I insulted you, I strive to keep things civil and a form of discussion, insults just hurt feelings and don’t really contribute to conversation - not at all my intentions.

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                  you said I’m a shallow person and that is an insult, because you also said it in a derivative meaning, inside a derogative context, spending a lot of words to get to that point. but I don’t care: it says nothing about myself, adds nor takes anything; while instead screams about your (online?) person.

                  so where are you from? you can answer that’s none of my business

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            7 months ago

            Unless you’re actually speaking on behalf of a growing, popular group which has very obviously made their opinion known and yet you try to muddy the waters.

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                This person was clearly telling you that your opinion is in the minority, that most people morally/ethically would rather use a general or generic greeting to make you feel the most comfortable.

                Guessing wrong at someone’s religion or wishing them a happy religious holiday that they don’t spend is substantially less effective at wishing someone well wishes. It’s as simple as that. What’s even better is knowing that persons religion and wishing them a happy holiday for them specifically.

                But again, we and the post itself, are talking about for general purposes where you may or may not know the persons religious preferences. I hope this makes things clearer, I’m not upset or angry or trying to hurt you. Just trying to make what is seemingly (according to this thread) the popular opinion clearer in an attempt to discuss a silly topic of “how best to greet someone around the holidays”

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    7 months ago

    Why say S-h word instead of just S word? Is there an S word I’m forgetting that they felt the need to differentiate from?

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    I almost didn’t notice this was “religiouscringe”. I was wondering why this shit got posted, and was a split second away from downvoting.

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    Buh back before it was an authoritarian religion the authoritarian religion fed us to lion! So we get free boot points when we be authoritarian, and only us don’t talk about your problems that is feeding us to lions IN MUH TIMES. oh /s