Yesterday there was a controversial movie torrent that was getting 1000s of downloads and was on the “popular this week” page, and today it’s just gone. I went to the uploader’s account page and it’s not there either. Just like it never existed.

I’m SUPER curious of the story behind what happened. Did the uploader take it down? 1337? Why?

EDIT: The movie was Lady Ballers 2023 (wasn’t sure if I was allowed to say) I did a little more research, and I think the copy the uploader put out was YTS but I don’t think they were affiliated with them. Maybe YTS told them to take it down? The movie is on their (YTS/YIFY’s) website.

  • just_another_person@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1462·
    1 year ago

    Welp, out of curiosity, I read up on this movie. It’s way dumber than I expected from the title. It’s just ‘Ladybugs’ all over again.

    Edit: holy shit does this get worse and worse. It’s like a right-wing wet dream. The cast is literally nothing but hate-group aligned right-wing YouTube personalities lol.

  • nttea@kbin.social
    1083·
    1 year ago

    The uploader deleted it so their drones can make social media posts claiming it was censored to generate more buzz and make sure everyone knows it exists.

    • Hyperreality@kbin.social
      586·
      1 year ago

      Yep. Claim victimhood. Fascism 101.

      Fascists are boring. It’s the same strategy for almost a hundred years. Orwell on Hitler:

      It is a pathetic, dog-like face, the face of a man suffering under intolerable wrongs. In a rather more manly way it reproduces the expression of innumerable pictures of Christ crucified, and there is little doubt that that is how Hitler sees himself. The initial, personal cause of his grievance against the universe can only be guessed at; but at any rate the grievance is here. He is the martyr, the victim, Prometheus chained to the rock, the self-sacrificing hero who fights single-handed against impossible odds. If he were killing a mouse he would know how to make it seem like a dragon. One feels, as with Napoleon, that he is fighting against destiny, that he can’t win, and yet that he somehow deserves to. The attraction of such a pose is of course enormous; half the films that one sees turn upon some such theme.

      Today’s mice are an incredibly marginalised and incredibly small sexual minority. But fascists will pretend they’re not, that they’re part of the elite trying to cause degeneracy. Not billionaire rapists like Musk or Trump.

      Not as if fascists are going to actually fix the big shit, like the economy, the environment, or affordable housing. Not as if they’re going to stand up to the countries actually threatening western values, like Russia or China. No. Now they’ve decided it’s some nobody in the arse end of America, who feels happier wearing a dress.

      People who fall for that shit are morons. Not that most fascists actually believe their own bullshit. They just do it shock and disconcert people, and because they hate those they perceive weaker than them. Just like their Dear Leader considers them scum, has regularly said he is disgusted by them, because they’re so weak that they’ve chosen to lick his boots.

      • splendoruranium@infosec.pubEnglish
        58·
        1 year ago

        What you write on argumentative strategy absolutely pertains to the topic and I’d say it also holds true. I just don’t really see what it has to do with fascism. Aren’t you conflating a couple of things here?
        Even when “Fascism traditionally employs that rhetoric” holds true, there’s no way that “Someone employing that rhetoric must be a fascist” can ever follow from that. A fascist might be a very special kind of moron, but it’s dangerous to then start calling every moron “fascist”, because it lessens the impact of that term, devalues it, if that makes sense. It makes undermining actual fascism much harder.

        • Hyperreality@kbin.social
          91·
          1 year ago

          Their leader calls journalists vermin and they go on about the ‘Lugenpresse’, his followers shoot up synagogues, allied media spread Nazi/far right inspired anti-semitic canards like Cultural Marxism (‘Kulturbolshewismus’), they go on about how the ‘’‘left wing intellectual elite’‘’ are trying to undermine western values and cause a decline of morals and degeneracy (‘Entartung’), they’re afraid of difference, they hold the weak in contempt, they abhor nuance so use a limited newspeak vocabulary to limit critical reasoning, they’re obsessed with plots, and on social media many of his followers spread the Q-anon conspiracy which is a reworking of the antisemtic blood libel canard.

          Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, is a duck.

          Here’s a Sartre quote that’s also increasingly relevant (again):

          “Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

          • splendoruranium@infosec.pubEnglish
            15·
            1 year ago

            Their leader calls journalists vermin and they go on about the ‘Lugenpresse’, his followers shoot up synagogues, allied media spread Nazi/far right inspired anti-semitic canards like Cultural Marxism (‘Kulturbolshewismus’), they go on about how the ‘’‘left wing intellectual elite’‘’ are trying to undermine western values and cause a decline of morals and degeneracy (‘Entartung’), they’re afraid of difference, they hold the weak in contempt, they abhor nuance so use a limited newspeak vocabulary to limit critical reasoning, they’re obsessed with plots, and on social media many of his followers spread the Q-anon conspiracy which is a reworking of the antisemtic blood libel canard.

            Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, is a duck.

            I presume we’re no longer talking about the movie’s marketing department…?

            Here’s a Sartre quote that’s also increasingly relevant (again):

            “Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

            What I’m reading here are things in the lines of “Good faith anti-Semitism doesn’t exist” or “anti-Semitism is intrinsically confrontational and quarrelsome”. I don’t quite think that’s a tenable position as it would be trivial to disprove. Am I misreading this? What is your take?
            Are you sure the line is concerned with anti-Semitism in general and not only with a very specific kind of anti-Semite (e.g. mid-century, mid-Europe, Bierkellerputsch-y types)?

        • Godric@lemmy.worldEnglish
          71·
          1 year ago

          No, deleting torrents is literally fascism, OK sweaty? Do you think Hitler had a positive seed ratio???

        • trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
          74·
          1 year ago

          If you do any research at all into what was said you’d realize that this was actually a fairly based response.

          • AVincentInSpace@pawb.socialEnglish
            12·
            11 months ago

            and I happen to agree but it is incredibly bad form to pass judgement on the basedness of one’s own post

            • trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
              43·
              1 year ago

              I said fairly based. The commenters preoccupation with the fascism connection was odd but the rest was pretty much on point for presenting a theory as to why the torrent had been removed and re-added. The commenter added additional commentary to present a parallel for what the torrent uploader was doing in order to obtain more public interest.

              In reference to your last line, you realize that the vast majority of the political sector is financially vested in ‘taking action’ against piracy, right? And by financially vested I obviously mean bribed by corps like MGM or UMG et al.

                • trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
                  4·
                  1 year ago

                  I can understand where you’re coming from but it’s not like the commenter lied. Both musk and trump have court cases involving sexual assault in various countries and our adversaries are getting one over on us because of the incompetence of every politician, not just left or right.

                  Perhaps I am seeing it in a different light but it sure seemed to me like billionaire and politician bashing as opposed to ‘orange man bashing’.

                • Hackerman_uwu@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  43·
                  1 year ago

                  Aaw shaaaame. Now you’re the victim after attacking someone else and calling them “psychotic”.

                  Lol.

                  You refuse to address their points deferring rather to a strategy of misdirecting using the name of the community. Any meat on your “psychotic rant” assertion? Nope. “This is a piracy board” …so you can dismiss thoughtful commentary on the topic that OOP has raised out of hand with nothing more than baseless accusations?

                  You want to hide behind etiquette and staying on topic but your posts in this thread are the most worthless meta commentary in the thread.

    • shani66@lemmy.comfysnug.spaceEnglish
      81·
      1 year ago

      Wouldn’t surprise me, with pirates generally being pretty permissable and that being the only trick right wingers seem to know.

  • ScottLaRock@lemmy.worldEnglish
    202·
    1 year ago

    Mass reporting or personal politics of the admins probably. IPT on the other hand has it pinned as a Staff Pick lol

      • matey@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        241·
        1 year ago

        IPTorrents, private tracker, not well regarded due to management but has lots of content

        • Cinner@lemmy.worldBEnglish
          54·
          1 year ago

          I would leave my laptop on 24/7 for years to make sure I seeded as much as possible on IPT. Then I wasn’t able to login or seed for a couple months and they locked my account. I went into their IRC to get it unlocked, and they said I should have logged in and could pay like $200 to get it unlocked. At the time I didn’t even have that much money in my account. I tried to reason with them, about how much I’ve uploaded and loved the site, and without a second response they just muted me and after a PM trying to talk to the guy they kicked and banned me from the IRC.

          FUCK IPTorrents.

          • jonne@infosec.pubEnglish
            32·
            1 year ago

            Are you using something else? I’m on IPT, never had any issues, but I’m willing to move.

            • Cinner@lemmy.worldBEnglish
              5·
              1 year ago

              No I got a better job after that and pretty much only pirate popular stuff that shows on 1337x, TPB, or TorrentGalaxy. I used to pirate mostly software but because of the increasing risk of ransomware and FUD rootkit botnets, I’d rather just pay $30 for it. I’ll still pirate something and run it in a VM if I /really/ need to and it’s $1,000 and I’m going to use it 5 times, but I usually just buy software now.

              I’ll probably get a seedbox setup and run Plex for media soon, in which case I’ll just use open trackers or find some non-IPT private tracker.

              • jonne@infosec.pubEnglish
                1·
                1 year ago

                Yeah, I don’t pirate software, but I’d prefer to stick to private trackers, even though i’m tempted to look at stuff like radarr and sonarr that use public trackers too, just for convenience.

                • Cinner@lemmy.worldBEnglish
                  5·
                  1 year ago

                  The only difference between public and private trackers is availability and quality. You should have a VPN always enabled (through the closest locale if you like, for speed) or a seedbox which is even better than a VPN. If public trackers have what you want, there’s zero reason not to use them.

                  When I was back on IPT, I found one of the top software uploaders binding a fully undetectable backdoor downloader to his downloads. Never in the installer or anything, always bound to the main software file and could be unbound after install and activation. Always showed 0/50 on virustotal etc. Since I was somewhat into malware analysis at the time, I tried to do some analysis on it but of course it would detect my analysis of it and just not run. Whereas if I ran the software on an old PC, it would do it’s thing and I could detect it after the fact, but still not get very far.

                  I used a lot of software from that guy previously. Who knows what keys to the kingdom he has.

    • satanmat@lemmy.worldEnglish
      212·
      1 year ago

      Right. Out of morbid curiosity…. I want to know. Knowing that it will be a disappointing answer.

      A controversial movie…

      The hell? CP, extreme political viewpoint; see now my mind is wondering. “Guess who’s coming to Dinner “? Controversial in its era —

      Oh I’ll bet it’s the Mormon Temple ceremony. lol

      • oldGregg@lemm.eeEnglish
        332·
        1 year ago

        Ah so it’s like a less funny version of “The Ringer”

        but instead of cheating at the special Olympics by pretending to be retarded, they cheat in women’s sports by pretending to be trans.

  • Hubi@feddit.deEnglish
    6·
    1 year ago

    It was probably the content moderators if it was a controversial movie like you said. There’s not really a way to find out what happened unless you contact the admins.

  • lorez@lemm.eeEnglish
    4·
    1 year ago

    I feel a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

  • Norgur@kbin.social
    62·
    1 year ago

    Forget about the history. What “controversial movie” are we talking about?

    • Burn_The_Right@lemmy.worldEnglish
      497·
      1 year ago

      Removing hate-speech is not censorship any more than removing CSAM is censorship. It’s just being responsible.

    • Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      231·
      1 year ago

      Just because it is not on the most famous torrent site which you don’t own doesn’t mean its being censored. Just ask for the torrent from the uploader or look on another website. The internet is so open you can find it somewhere else.

    • BolexForSoup@kbin.social
      185·
      1 year ago

      I’m not sure why you’re under the impression Admins/moderators haven’t censored the Internet literally since it’s inception. As they should sometimes.

      The Internet is definitely a mess, but that’s not why.