Like, obviously, these people are awful, and I’m not sad that they’re having a shitty day, but I find it hard to cheer for this kind of vigilante justice. If they haven’t done anything illegal, they shouldn’t be doxxed, and if they have done something illegal, then they should be reported to the police.
This shit sort of is illegal, though, under hate speech laws. The police tend not to act on it too much, out of some mixture of fear of a backlash, and a natural bent to sympathy for the far-right.
If they’re “just” buying memorabilia, then they aren’t necessarily producing hate speech.
It’s unclear what the site sells, but if someone bought a replica gun for a particularly tasteless Halloween costume, then they haven’t broken hate speech laws. I think.
That’s true. I guess you could argue any of it could potentially be for educational purposes. You’d need to collect evidence on how the items are being used, as well.
That kind of nuance is something angry mobs are bad at, so I agree with OP there. I just wish the actual government cared more.
The human propensity for ignorance should never be underestimated; I can also see the possibility (to use an example product from the antihate article) someone somehow stumbled into buying shotglasses with norse runes on them because they thought they were cool, not realizing the broader context of the site. Is that likely? No, but again, people are really good at doing dumb shit. :P
This reminds me of the Ashley Madison leak.
Like, obviously, these people are awful, and I’m not sad that they’re having a shitty day, but I find it hard to cheer for this kind of vigilante justice. If they haven’t done anything illegal, they shouldn’t be doxxed, and if they have done something illegal, then they should be reported to the police.
This shit sort of is illegal, though, under hate speech laws. The police tend not to act on it too much, out of some mixture of fear of a backlash, and a natural bent to sympathy for the far-right.
If they’re “just” buying memorabilia, then they aren’t necessarily producing hate speech.
It’s unclear what the site sells, but if someone bought a replica gun for a particularly tasteless Halloween costume, then they haven’t broken hate speech laws. I think.
That’s true. I guess you could argue any of it could potentially be for educational purposes. You’d need to collect evidence on how the items are being used, as well.
That kind of nuance is something angry mobs are bad at, so I agree with OP there. I just wish the actual government cared more.
The human propensity for ignorance should never be underestimated; I can also see the possibility (to use an example product from the antihate article) someone somehow stumbled into buying shotglasses with norse runes on them because they thought they were cool, not realizing the broader context of the site. Is that likely? No, but again, people are really good at doing dumb shit. :P
Agreed on all counts. We have due process for exactly this reason.
And pedophiles who buy CSAM and never touch an actual child aren’t producing child porn. But they’re still obviously part of the problem.
Fully agree.
It’s one of those situations where I don’t condemn nor condone.
they’re literal fucking nazis