if you bother to think about it that’s highly unlikely.

When people say shit like this it makes me wonder how divorced from reality they are… do you really think it’s highly unlikely that the IDF did this after their other wonderful works:

• Filming themselves humiliating prisoners and others detained for no charge
• Repeatedly killing journalists then denying it. One example, and here is a report detailing the rest of those journalists, dead or detained.
• Killing 130 UN workers
• All these statements made by IDF soldiers about their systematic mistreatment, abuse, and torture of Palestinians, namely in Hebron

It is absolutely highly likely that the IDF has not stopped this.

I don’t even want to start with the stories of some of those Israel detained without a charge because it’s fucking tragic. One named Israa, her story is gut-wrenching and one in hundreds. This is what happened after her car broke down by a checkpoint:

She tried to open the windows, but they, too, were affected by the electrical failure. Again, she tried to exit the car, opening the door, but the officer rushed over and slammed it shut, crushing her hand. She yelled “Allahu Akbar ’alaiku” (God is greater than you are), chastising him several times for not allowing her to escape. She urged him to let her out as fire ignited in the front part of the car. He refused. He stood there, watching her burn inside. The airbag deployed, completely trapping her inside the blazing car.

The police officer who stopped her claimed that she was trying to use the propane tank to blow up the car. His testimony was the only one considered in the Israeli court, and Israa’ was branded a ‘terrorist’. She was sentenced to 11 years in prison. She is now serving her term at HaSharon prison inside Israel, and is denied much needed medical attention. After her debilitating injuries and imprisonment, her husband also suffered a car accident, leaving him permanently disabled and confined to a wheelchair. Their son, Mu’tasim, is now living with his grandmother in Jerusalem.

She was recently released. I’ll leave a picture of her face just so we don’t forget what kind of shit the IDF does

Ah yes, another apologist. I am sure if Israeli men were stripped and publicly humiliated like this, you would have been the first person to condemn it, but since it is just Palestinians who everyone knows are only Hamas supporters (/s) is just fine, right.

So perhaps you should think twice about who is “full of shit” here having double standards.

Removed. You have it backwards:

“Even if only one of these people are combatants I would argue it’s justified for everyone’s safety”

In actuality it should be “Even if only one of these people are innocents I would argue it’s not justified for everyone’s human dignity.”

Ah yes, stripping naked people and keeping them in the cold for hours and hours and then streaming this online is all because of the safety of Israel. How dare I question their sound judgement, right? So international laws don’t apply to Israel either, that’s my friend what I call double standards.

War? Don’t wars usually have sovereign nations on each side, fielding actual militaries and such. Looks more like an ethnic cleansing operation to me. By one sovereign nation on an ethnically defined and enforced internal enclave that isn’t even recognized to be a real place by half the world

And stripping them of clothes? The only POW pictures I ever saw like that came from Abu Ghraib. Probably because it’s a war crime. Nobody is objecting to the control measures.

They don’t care about Israeli soldiers’ lives. Don’t bother.

‘Evacuation zone’ aka these peoples homes and communities, where many other civilians need rescue and aid. No no please keep supporting the idea that 2 million people can just move to an undeveloped plain and have all aid including food, water and shelter withheld. Collective punishment is a war crime.

Monstrous take. Do better.

everyone there will be considered a potential enemy combatant.

Israel thinks its god, doesn’t it? Announces a military zone anywhere at all, then shoots people there right and left. What we have left is entire families wiped out, and 7k dead children, and a few thousands that are so traumatized and radicalized now that Israel has effectively set the stage for the rise of the next Hamas.

Thank you Israel 👏 you have indeed saved us all 👏 👏 /s

Oh hey, sure. I can tell you exactly how we did it in Iraq. On both counts. So when you first make contact with the person you’re going to detain you have them stop at a distance. Then someone with a thermal sight looks at them through the sight and it’s readily apparent if they have a bomb vest on. I mean there’s no chance of not seeing it. But it could be something like a money belt or an armor vest. So you have them disrobe if, and only if, the guy with the thermal sight says it needs to happen. At that point if it is a vest and they’re cooperative it’s an EOD problem. If they aren’t cooperative, well that sucks.

The key thing here though, is in the 99.9 percent of cases it’s not a vest, or there was no positive indication, they keep their fucking clothes. Just like your local PD is capable of searching you without stripping you, so is your friendly neighborhood infantry platoon.

Now about bombing. Before you can drop any ordinance you have to first answer a few questions.

*Is this structure currently being used by the enemy?

*Are there signs of civilians, or is it somewhere we would reasonably expect them to be? (Such as an apartment)

*Is this structure on the protected targets list? (Oh yeah we spent time creating lists of things not to shoot at if possible.)

If the answer is yes to the first and any of the others we then also need to figure out if it rises to a level where bombing it is appropriate. For example, bombing an apartment building because there’s 12 guys there is a war crime. But if there’s a Battalion dug in there, then yeah it’s legitimate.

What Israel has been doing is scanning satellite and drone footage for anything that looks like it could be the entrance hatch to a tunnel and bombing that. No matter where it is and with no evidence as to whether it’s a maintenance tunnel or the yet to be found super secret bad guy hang out. If I did that in Iraq I’d have been brought up on charges. They tried to bring me up on charges for firing a warning shot. So please tell me more about how, this is just the way it’s done. I’ll be over here shining my CIB, waiting for the answer.

That other countries would do it too does in no way make it morally justified, it just makes those countries monstrous as well.

Hamas are horrible terrorists. There, your first liberal pointing a finger at Hamas. Now, consider what the point of critique is. Will Hamas ever care about western criticism? No. Will Israel ever care? Maybe. They depend on Western support in their political and economic stability. Therefore continued scrutiny and criticism of Israel has a chance of actually making a difference.

Every single time Israel commits a war crime someone is like “tHatS jUsT wAr oKay?”

That’s not what Israel said about October 7th is it?

So why should be Palestinians settle for it?

Oh the mental equilibristics to try to excuse war crimes and clear dehumanization from Israel. Seriously you should ask what kind of a person you are if you defend them.

Why does oil love Israel?

The issue is bipartisan. Dems love Israel just the same it seems.

You got the Christo-Con old guard Republicans who will drop to their knees at the drop of a hat to suck the nearest Israeli’s dick. They make up majority of the over-60s, which is frankly a pretty major segment of the Republicans. These are the guys who will automatically side with our greatest ally regardless of context.

Trump-leaning but not fanatical Republicans tend to be pro-Zionism or at the very least they are neutral to it. I feel like this group is exceedingly small.

But MAGA-ers? It’s hard to place them. You get a mix bag of hardcore Zionists, white nationalists, libertarians who are against the funding, it’s all over the fucking place.

I do feel like Zionism is dropping among Republicans year by year.

Let’s see Bean Shapeepee cope with this

If he was holding the gun while he was surrendering him it would be justified, which is what they’re seemingly trying to stage in this video.

The problem is that the man got the gun in one hand in one video, the gun is then in his other hand in the next video, which proves it was a retake of the same act.

They quickly deleted the second Twitter video in classic IDF fashion when they see they leaked propaganda evidence.

And somehow he’s allowed to have a gun while being in his underwear…

Seems just a tad too suspicious.

so even taking some clothes off can be understandable because there is a suspicions they have bombs tied to them. However, you can do one check and then give them the clothes back.

That’s honestly sad. I understand the need to check whether they don’t have weapons but tying them like this is too much. And then even the recording screams, “see how we dehumanize them.”

Who said that? Are you quoting yourself? IDF has been clear they will attack Hamas wherever they are found, even in the south. The evacuation zone is where they will consider those who remain potential enemy combatants and where the heaviest bombing is.

What makes you assume they are civilians, and shouldn’t this be verified? That’s the nature of war; It seems provoking one wasn’t the best idea. Strip searching them and arresting them is pretty humane considering the alternatives.

No, they’re not civilians, they’re Hamas members came out of tonnels Northern Gaza when IDF have started to flood them with sea water

And how else is IDF supposed to make sure that they don’t have any weapons?

And it’s not even comparable, stop equating things with holocaust, it’s really disrespectful

That’s the point, not all Palestinians are members of Hamas, it’s sad that people equate between the two.

Not really.

And Israel does takes POW, how else would it get to know where Israeli hostages are?

“We’re talking about military age men who were discovered in areas that civilians were supposed to have evacuated weeks ago,” he said.
Mr Levy added that they would be questioned to “work out who indeed was a Hamas terrorist and who is not”.
He emphasised the detained men had been found in areas where Israeli forces had engaged in “close-quarter combat” with Hamas. They had been “deliberately disguising themselves as civilians” and operating from civilian buildings.

They found them in an active war zone where they said anyone remaining would be considered a potential enemy combatant. They didn’t shoot them, instead they arrested them to determine who is a hostile. I guess the IDF is damned if they do and damned if they don’t.