• Deestan@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Hey, this is not me passing judgement, but trying to be informative since you are getting a lot of hate and seem confused by it:

    Your question and commenting style are 100% match for “concern troll”, and there are no signs proving otherwise, like concrete examples of your issue or honest answers to followup questions.

    Requests for examples are dismissed. You have commented at least 6 times that “I have given numerous examples” but all I can find is one comment where you say you wrote something like “that’s kinda messed up” which is both vague and contains zero context on what that comment responded to. No more examples.

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      11 months ago

      I don’t know what concern troll is. But I’ve been accused of being a troll before which sucks. I’m not a troll.

      I’ve given other examples already like how I can’t mention brand names in any context and can’t say anything about certain governments, corporations or industries regardless of the content. Like literally anything about them, including positive or neutral.

      I also struggle to think of examples because it happens so often and I’m not recording them and they’re just random things I wouldn’t remember.

      Beyond that I shouldn’t have to say what gets deleted and I actually can’t think of examples because I’ve already forgotten about them. It’s usually completely random things.

      Also, the question is about alternate text characters. Some people were kind enough to understand this does happen to some people for no discernable reason, and either were empathetic but couldn’t help, while others actually gave some nice tips. Most people took this post as an opportunity to grill me about what the content was and assume the worst about me in a number of ways and insult me.

      It’s really whatever. This is a known problem if you look into it online and there’s even someone else in this comments section who said they experienced the same issues.

      Maybe it will become more well known and people will understand that these systems do not always work properly and often delete some people’s comments in some cases for no apparent reason, with mixed results. Assuming that they always work properly is just an illogical stance in my opinion. Technology is fallible, and especially AI and auto-moderation.

      This honestly reminds me of something. Before butt-dialing became well known, when it happened sometimes people would literally refuse to believe that the phone had dialled accidentally in their pocket. They thought that such an issue could never occur. Well, it did. And this is a real problem I’m talking about, and I am honestly innocent. I could easily be the same person as you, and if you were in this situation, I would be empathetic to it and I wouldn’t demand to know what you were commenting (especially when it’s literally lots of random things in various scenarios). If someone told me that they were having a technical issue like this, I would believe them. We need to believe each other more, I think. All this accusation of falsehood. I understand trolls exist, but we’ve all lost our minds if we assume everyone is a troll all the time. Tbh.

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        11 months ago

        A concern troll would not use this opportunity to clarify, but instead respond to my comment evasively, deflect, play victim, and with a barrage of politely worded smokescreen.

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          11 months ago

          Are you saying that’s what I’m doing? I honestly can’t tell. If you think that no matter what I say, I’m assumed to be a troll anyway, then I guess I can’t win. I did my best to clarify. My situation makes sense to me. I mean, I don’t understand what’s happening to me with the YouTube comments and why, or what the criteria is. But if I saw someone saying what I’m saying I think I would believe them. Saying you don’t know whether you believe me or not is one thing, and that kind of hurts. It’s more hurtful that people are 100% not believing me and assuming the worst of me. Do you actually think I’m a troll? Even now? Man this is crazy.

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            11 months ago

            I don’t think the commenter is implying anything. They deliberately worded it very factually. You either fullfill that category or you don’t. They took care not to include that judgement.

            A few words of my own: Mind that YouTube does this deliberately. They don’t want you to know the exact rules. If you don’t know the exact limit, you won’t be able to ‘circumvent’ it and rephrase your comment to stay slightly below. That is by design. That’s also why there probably isn’t an answer to your question in the first place.

            Google anticipated what you’re trying to do and this is their answer. We can take informed guesses. But they’re frequently changing things around and adapting anyways, so there’s only so much you can do. And they’re known to do it with other of their products, too. Nobody knows how the Google search, or YouTube algorithm works, so they stay in control when it comes to search engine optimization and what get’s recommended on YT.

            It’s an old technique. With blurry borders, you gain the upper hand. People have to pull themselves together not to overstep (which is in your interest) and you can’t really be held accountable either, which is another plus. It’s a dick-move. Und unfair. But it works.