• Sanctus@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    We use messenger, which I also don’t like. Its ridiculous. If these fucken tech giants aren’t going to right interoperability standards then someone needs to force them to. We made all this shit to make life better and somehow have forgotten that was the fucken goal.

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      11 months ago

      For better or worse you happen to be using the one messaging app that is broadly agreed to be worse than iMessage.

      Signal and Telegram are far superior, even putting aside the most glaring flaws of the other two.

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          11 months ago

          I’ve successfully converted a spouse, which I don’t think is out of the question w.r.t who I replied to.

          I’ve also converted my main friend group, but appreciate that’s insurmountable for a lot of people - genuinely, people hate change after all. I’m lucky to have a lot of friends who work in tech and are receptive to trying new things.

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        Its convenience. Why have both of us download a new app strictly for pictures when she is already on Facebook, and I have a dusty one with no posts for a decade. Plus getting someone in the US to download a 3rd party messaging app is like asking them to respond to the Nigerian Prince for his offers.

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          Fair enough. It’s kind of an oxymoron to worry about the trust of a given 3rd party messaging app while using products from a known, wide scale, repeated privacy intruder like Meta, but you have what you need in terms of convenience so I won’t make a further case for an alternative.

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            11 months ago

            Believe me, I know. I wouldn’t be using it if the people I need it for would switch. But people don’t give a shit here. I gave up trying to move apps. The rest of my shit is arch linux and de googled. This is the last hold out.

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          11 months ago

          I’m not criticising the UX of iMessage for Apple to Apple comms. It’s solid, and was leader-in-class for a very long time.

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        11 months ago

        interoperability is the capability of a product or system to interact and function with others. Why would that force them to all function the same? Why would that be bad for us as consumers? Why does it matter how many choices we have if those choices restrict us to using a specific one? Interoperability solves all of these and causes none of the problems you are stating. Of course they have no incentive for doing this as it doesn’t benefit a corporation, they’re only incentivized to entrap people in their ecosystems cause it makes them the most money. Different messaging standards is one of the ways they keep us locked in. This is a choice, too, one made by the tech giants for you with no choice in the matter. You can’t send a nice quality picture from iMessage to Google Messages, get fukt.

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            Choice is nice, but my problem is the choices can’t communicate with each other correctly. Thats an issue. Its an issue when our communication devices are not effective at communicating what we want to. We are already seeing the bare ass minimum right now, which is just SMS. They’re doing that now, the bare minimum. If Apple was forced to fix their shitty conversion instead of it just picking the worst resolution possible, they would do it. It doesn’t matter what app I use because most people in the US use iMessage, and thats where I do most of my communicating.