• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    But funding genocide isn’t unaffordable…

    Got plenty of billions to give to Netanyahu to continue his genocide of Palestinians no matter what. Just not enough for Americans to have stuff like healthcare or retirement.

    Nope.

    Gotta have priorities, it’s not like we could ask the wealthiest to pay their fair of taxes either. Just think of all the donations politicians like Biden would lose our on!

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      11 months ago

      What the fuck are you talking about? Biden and the Democrats are the only politicians trying to tax the rich, get people healthcare, and keep Medicare funded. Blame the Republicans that stop them every time. It has nothing to do with not being able to afford it.

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        11 months ago

        Yea the US could sacrifice zero dollars in defense budget and still provide adequate service to the population. Healthcare is cheaper when it’s not being profiteered by insurance middlemen, and private companies pricing is really hard to influence directly without something like a price fixing lawsuit.

        But hey gotta maintain the “democrats are just as bad” image.

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        11 months ago

        They’re one of those “gEnOcIdEr JoE” types that don’t realize the US would’ve backed Israel regardless of who was President.

        Also, the military industrial complex is fucking insane and it’s arguable that the US has invested so much into it that it would hugely impact the economy between all the programs, jobs, and money in general we (over)give to them.

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          11 months ago

          Of course I know we would have supported Israel regardless. They are an ally who was attacked. It’s the right thing to do. That isn’t to say that I don’t think there shouldn’t be restrictions that come with that aid. Limits on civilian casualties for example. That is all irrelevant to the point.

          You’re right that the MIC is a huge part of the economy, so if anything supplying weapons to Israel will inject billions into the US economy. That will only help the finances of the average American.

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          11 months ago

          Not necessarily. Reagan stopped the bombing of West Beirut with a phone call. Fucking Reagan. Maybe at the start the US would’ve backed Israel, but things getting this bad is clearly genocide Joe’s fault.

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        11 months ago

        Yes.

        If you pretend the only two options are Republicans or Moderate Dems, then the moderate Dems are the only ones doing anything.

        They’re throwing glasses of water on the fire while your house burns down and stopping for five minutes between glasses to demand you praise them.

        And that is the two party system. And only the two parties can change it.

        Which is why Bernie has spent decades trying to get a progressive movement going. And it’s finally happening.

        So now we have some democrats willing to fix shit.

        But don’t just lump everyone with a “D” next to their name into the same group.

        So I’ll go back to blaming the Republicans when Republicans make shit worse.

        And I’ll keep blaming moderate Dems when they refuse to fix anything once in power. Even the rare things they do fix, it’s still less than what Republicans break.

        Keep it up, shit keeps getting worse. It’s just hitting a couple branches on your way down. It’s ain’t even a parachute, sure as shit isn’t preventing the fall.

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      11 months ago

      Not only funding genocide but also defunding a country legitimately trying to defend itself from an invasion. Somehow, he can invoke emergency powers to weaponize Israel, but Ukraine’s fate is left to another group who can’t even manage to pass a bowl of mashed potatoes.

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      11 months ago

      Military budget has nothing to do with prescription drugs and groceries.

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        11 months ago

        Wait…

        You think the 15 billion Biden wants Israel to have is coming out of the defense budget?!

        https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/20/us/politics/bidens-funds-israel-ukraine.html

        You think any of the billions we give them annually is being taken away from the DoD?

        Ludacris.

        The military budget isn’t paying for that.

        It’s getting added to our debt, which will then prevent moderates and Republicans from supporting shit like universal healthcare or tax cuts to the least wealthy

        Gotta say, didn’t think I’d have to break that down. Thought everyone in a political sub would understand