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nobody doubted that the worst of reddit would take over after we left
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For $8 a month.
That’s the idea… It’s a protest of a different kind. Still makes the point about moderation needed by people who do it for free.
I demodded myself from shittyadvice before I destroyed my account, but prior to that I posted my idea for what SA should do. I’m convinced that sub exists to cordon off all the trolls so they don’t ruin the rest of Reddit but giving shitty advice elsewhere. My plan was just lock the sub but tell everybody in there to spread the love and Make Reddit Shitty Again, aka MRSA. We’d spread like an incurable disease.
I was going to make a comment about how I confused “SA” for Something Awful, but as I continued to read I saw it was still an apt analogy…
What if, and hear me out on this, you go and start posting a bunch of ai images of trump sucking Putin off. Just a thought.
I’d have to go back to spez’s teat to do that. I’m no fooking kneeler
/r/freefolk is leaking.
the entirety of reddit is leaking mate
Good habits start now. Link to equivalent Lemmy communities (equivalemmys? sublemmys? what’s the plural of Lemmy anyway?) as they come up:
https://lemmy.world/c/freefolk exists.
Beehaw has (tentatively, among at least some of us) decided that beehaw ‘sublemmys’ are hives, or possibly yeehives. We’re workshopping it.
Idk for everyone else though :P
Edit: we’re all clearly lemmings.
what’s the plural of Lemmy anyway?
Lemmi, obviously
Lemmae?
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Kilmisters, duh
Just an FYI, I think linking communities like this: [freefolk](/c/freefolk@lemmy.world) allows every user to click it and view the community from their instance, instead of actually moving to the remote instance where they’re not logged in :)
And that’s a good thing!
This is a fine idea if a ever saw one.
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Hey, you don’t see me complaining they stay there and don’t migrate to Lemmy. I’m pretty fine with that.
I see this as an absolute win!
I realized that Lemmy being slightly more difficult to get started would mean that the user base will be smaller, but fewer low-effort people would make the switch, so it’s really a plus.
I disagree. Us more tech-savvy people will come across, sure. But most people aren’t. And they have hobbies and jobs too, and want a place to gather online for that.
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Same, but I figure I can check in once in a while on the few subreddits that I’m interested in. Some of the subreddits also have a presens on discord, so that could also be an option.
There are DIY communities on the Solarpunk and Beehaw instances that I am subscribed to. Looking good so far!
I managed to figure out Lemmy, and I’m not tech savvy at all.
Its not rocket surgery. It only seems complicated because it is new. Once you get past the sign up phase and figure out how to find Communities it is easy-peasy.
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You are in a very, very small minority there
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And that’s fine. They will find their place. I’ll take a smaller community of tech savvy and people willing to learn over a large community of toxic argumentative people. If you’re not willing to learn something new it can be a reflection on how well you’ll get along with other people. I don’t care if someone is religious or what their political beliefs are but I am not interested in reading about how trans people need to be executed or how women should not have rights. I don’t care to open my notifications and see some psycho’s message saying I’m not doing my duty and God will punish me for not being interested in having kids. Many of these people go out of their way to verbally assault and threaten, triggered by something as simple as gay people exosting. It’s exhausting. So I do hope that Lemmy doesn’t become reddit. I hope it filters the best of what we had at reddit regardless of where they’re from and who they are, I enjoy discussions and conversation and points of view. I don’t want to argue with someone who believes mixed race couples should be illegal.
I agree 👍
feel free to shit post starting tomorrow
It’s funny because they’re implying that the whole sub isn’t just shitposts to begin with.
What?!? You don’t think a link to a youtube channel with a Roman bust as their avatar screeching about “muh collapse of western society” is a valuable contribution?!?
The fascists ability to appropriate cool things makes be so sad and frustrated. I love history and Roman history in particular. They are so familiar as humans but at the same time alien in their views if society and the world. Makes it really fascinating.
nazis poison everything they touch
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They post shit, not shitposts. Conservatives add nothing to a conversation.
Nothing says conservative like being happy about big and sudden changes.
Well you’ve got to remember that these big and sudden changes are great because they benefit the ruling class which the conservatives will eventually become once they’ve pulled their bootstraps tight enough.
It’s just basic logic.
/s
Someone throw a padlock on that group to keep them in Reddit.
Please!
I’m all for freedom of speech, but I’m really irked by the lengths people go to just to be offensive.
r/conservative is also not a place for free speech. They ban people for asking questions.
I was banned for “promoting the party switch myth” when I pointed out that the Republican Party of the 1860s is not the same as the republican party of 2020.
It’s like an alternative horrifying universe in that subreddit. It kept popping up in my feed and I eventually blocked it but not after letting it ruin my mood way too many times lol. Made me lose faith in humanity…
You can get banned quoting trunp
Well, voat is gone (i think), but Saidit is Right there, mostly empty and waiting for them, hopefully they’ll go there and stay there. i actually saw people suggesting saidit to other people last week, so fingers crossed.
🤞
so basically, “we mods are boycotting but we can’t act like we actually agree with the other protests.”
It’s not a terrible strategy. Reddit can remove mods and reopen a subreddit but if you turn off automod, any extra moderation bots and let shit run wild then reddit has a problem.
Weaponize the assholes that mods usually have to deal with by giving them full reign.
Assuming those mods stay true to their word then 2 days of hell being allowed to happen might actually be worse overall for the sub.
Couldn’t help but notice your username.
Any Cosmere communities over here yet? I haven’t seen anything from 17s or elsewhere.
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For a brief period of time I was on a place on Reddit where new users could get help finding their way around the site.
Someone shows up there and says, “I’m not sure why I’m even on this libt++d communist site, nobody here will respect the way any good conservative American thinks.”
I’m thinking, OK, snowflake, don’t melt so hard from being a victim, but I responded with, “You might try /r/Conservative, and I can ask their moderators if they have any other suggestions.”
I did so: I sent the moderators of /r/Conservative a message explaining what I was looking for and asking for any advice they might have for this new user. The response I got back was, “LOL, F+++ off.”
Lovely, lovely people there.
(100% that good conservative American was on the libt++d communist site for the free porn.)
Yeah I tried a few good faith attempts there. People would post asking why there was “no evidence of x” or why “this has never happened” or why “liberals are too afraid to answer y”. So I’d link a news article, or a summary of the argument they were asking about.
I think I ended up getting 6 different accounts banned before I gave up.
edit: Also kind of funny how often they’d brag about never banning anyone, while being one of the most ban-happy subs on the platform.
I had something similar happen to me in r/republican. Pre-Trump, it actually wasn’t a bad subreddit. You could have relatively civil discussions in there. I often used it to see and ask how Republicans/Conservatives thought about various things. I always tried to be respectful, understanding that that the wasn’t “my sub.” I flaired myself with a ‘D’ or something so it’d be obvious that I wasn’t hiding and trolling. Had some OK discussions in there the few times I’d dare to chime in.
But it changed once Trump started running. I once was having a civil discussion with a user, trying to understand their take, and ended up linking to an article from a large, mainstream publication, to show what I was talking about.
I was banned with no comment. When I politely asked mods what I did wrong and if I could be unbanned if I promised to not do whatever I did again, I got the message: “Don’t link liberal sources.” And it wasn’t a liberal source! Just something not from Fox or wherever. From then on, I could lurk, but I could never comment.
And the mods got crazier. I’d see that they’d remove comments and ban anyone, even Republicans, who spoke out against Trump. At that point, there was no reason to go there anymore.
I got banned because I called healthcare, daycare, education, and paternity leave “pro-life” measures.
Granted, I didn’t belong there, but I tried to regularly converse in good faith… which they never really deserved anyway.
Oh, yeah. The subs that claim they never ban are the ones with the biggest ban hammers.
There used to be some really icky subreddit dedicated to… basically being a bunghole. “Public Health Watch”, I think. It was anti-LGBTQ+, anti-women, anti-just about everything. Everything was a threat to these poor little pseudo-incels (they couldn’t even be incels right). I forget how I stumbled on it, but one day one of them posted a link to a study that “proved” something about women and their sexuality and how it damaged men and I don’t remember clearly, but their conclusion was so stupid. So I read the damn study and it explicitly said the exact opposite of what they said. I replied with whole paragraphs from the study showing that the study said disagreed with what that post claimed. I was banned within minutes.
On the one hand, I kinda get it: I regularly deal with pseudoscientists who cherry pick through studies to find one or two sentences that agrees with them, instead of what the study actually says, and claim I’m “interpreting” the study wrong. On the other hand, when you’re the cherry-picker, you don’t get to be angry when someone else reads the rest of the words and finds out you’re the dimwit.
I’m impressed that you managed to find 6 posts that weren’t “flared users only.”
This is exactly what happened to DIGG* and what’s currently happening to twitter.
Conservatives get beaten down by the vast majority of users and get a chip on their shoulder. Then as the site starts to die and the users move elsewhere conservatives jump on the sinking ship and declare their the new captain. They start drilling holes in the sinking ship cause theres nkthing else to do, and eventually realize the echo chamber sucks and then move on to the other social networks that everyone else went to, and the process repeats.
I hope with federation that the cycle doesn’t repeat but we’ll see.
- DIGG made their big DIGG 4.0 change to overhaul the algorithm because it was being gamed and brigaded by members of conservative forums at the time. It just so happened they did it with a user interface overhaul. For a while, after most everyone moved to reddit, the top posts were mostly conservative stuff.
Makes sense. I caught a bit of late Slashdot then went RSS to news sources for a while, then Reddit. I didn’t have informed and fleshed out view of the political spectrum at this time to notice. Maybe I’ve gobbled up some shit that I had to undo later. This reminds me that I miss the Slashdot comment labels. A FOSS platform like Lemmy could be a place to experiment with it.
That’s what happened to me back in the day. Being young and naive, definitely picked up some things I had to undo and look back with cringe.
Then as the site starts to die and the users move elsewhere conservatives jump on the sinking ship and declare their the new captain. They start drilling holes in the sinking ship cause theres nkthing else to do,
This is a really clever metaphor. Someone with the skills needs to draw it in the style of a political cartoon from the 1910-20s.
(Also, I saw a great quote somewhere about how conservatives destroy things because they don’t have the capacity to build. Your “drilling holes” reminded me of that.)
They’re doing the same thing that Republicans in Congress are doing/proposing: gerrymandering and raising the voting age. Conservatism is at odds with democracy.
Always needing to be the contrarian, no matter the subject or how it may hurt them as well.
I don’t understand the mentality behind this. Is it just a case of “They’re doing a thing so we’ll do the opposite”? What exactly is the goal here?
That’s pretty much been the entire conservative movement’s MO for 30 years now.
Reactionary contrarianism is basically the conservative’s signature move.
undefined> “They’re doing a thing so we’ll do the opposite”
That’s their gameplan most of the time.
They don’t understand. So they’re going against the popular movement. Fear is a bitch 🗿
Opportunism - they just want to profit from the black out to push their own sub. As often, the conservative principles (or in this case rules) are not so important if you can gain any success by ignoring them.
I think they hope all the other opinions will go away and they’ll get their favorite thing, an echo chamber.
I do, they’re fucking stupid
Couldn’t have said it better myself!
I don’t hate it. I’m sure some truly vile shit will get posted. Might be enough to get them banned off the site lol.
Again? The real nutballs went off to form patriots.win, after they hilariously lost their preferred domain name in an act of negligence (and/or ignorance.) I could see them pulling the same trick again, forming up a Lemmy node that no one else would federate with a 10’ pole.
patriots.win
Good god I’ll be cringing all week from this
I see you’re not familiar with American conservatives. This is how they operate. They’re just not always so open.
/r/conservative tomorrow be like
Holy smokes I forgot about epic rap battles!!!
Rasputin v. Stalin (v. Lenin v. Gorbachev v. Putin) still pops unbidden into my mind, especially in light of current events.
I’m the host with the most glasnost!
They’ve slowed down considerably, but ERB still put out new ones a handful of times a year and the quality is still pretty damn high!
Boots ain’t gonna lick themselves…
maybe if you pull them up by the bootstraps gently…
Well, you don’t need third party apps with good moderation tools if you just don’t moderate anything. /s
R/Conservative does moderate. They ban anyone who even whispers anything slightly against their political views. Even if it’s quoting Trump himself.
I tried to get banned by commenting about someone being brainwashed in the thread about Trump’s indictment. The post I replied to was basically “If trump is convicted I’ll officially consider myself living in a dictatorship”.
I unfortunately didn’t get banned from the subreddit, just a warning for ‘harassment.’
Is there a reason why they’re doing this? Blackout’s not even political. They just want to be contrarian to everything.
Soort of. Despite being over a million subs for about a year now (maybe more or less, I forget), they try to push the narrative that they are complete Reddit outcasts and are treated unfavorably compared to other political subs. I wouldn’t be surprised if they see this as their way of becoming the predominant political sub on the site now that Reddit is falling apart.
I mean, they aren’t treated well by other users, they don’t deserve to be and shouldn’t be. Paradox of tolerance and all that. They have their echo chamber and leaving it means a bad time. They are still treated well by the platform itself.
Yeah, that’s what I meant. They get a lot of well deserved hate, but some people on that sub act like the entire place is shadowbanned by the admins even though they’ve been getting away with blatantly breaking the TOS for years without getting banned.
Exactly. They just get mad because their hate fuelled opinions get shat on.
The entire conservative political philosophy is based on being a martyr. They better be careful, or they’re gonna become the dog that caught the car, just like on Twitter.
Not allowing unfettered corporate greed to ruin things is leftist propaganda!
Pretty sure they figure it’s all the “Leftist Libtard” subs going dark and so, yeah, they’re gonna be congrarian to that. And, at the core, the blackout is about sharing tools to produce a more inclusive community. And that’s the sort of thing /r/conservative is staunchly against. So it makes sense they’d go out of their way to go contrary to that.
That’s basically their entire ideology anyway so kinda fits.
I assumed the idea was to fill reddit with trash content. A lot of subs didn’t go dark, so flooding the homepage with trash content will pollute the existing experience.
Going dark fulfills a whole bunch of objectives, filling up with trash is one of them, it’s fewer eyes seeing ads because less content keeping people scrolling, people subbed to subreddits that went dark are getting a stream of messages saying the execs at reddit fucked up and are providing alternatives like discord and Lemmy, and anyone who even dabbled with fediverse relates stuff like mastodon are getting messages and emails capitalizing on the mass Exodus saying hey come to lemmy, we’re like reddit but decentralized.
Their posts don’t seem to deviate much from their usual posts. Target achieved, I guess?
Don’t you love it when your normal MO is the hot new thing?
That’ll pull in a lot of new users. Conservatives and chuds will see it and flock there. Wouldn’t surprise me if any of the investors eyeing the IPO were among them.
I doubt their content is making fp
True, but it will make home for people who are subbed.
Many conservatives are convinced that Reddit is basically a communist website at this point, so anything Reddit approves of MUST be bad
Which is both sad and hilarious. That anyone could be that stupid to actually believe that. And then to realize that this is how poorly people in Western nations are educated.
Well, Reddit the Community. Reddit the Company clearly doesn’t approve of the blackout.
