A tankie is someone who supports authoritarian communism (I believe the term originated from using tanks to suppress protests)
Here’s a post showing that the main instance of Lemmy (hosted by the main 2 Lemmy devs) removes any negative posts about the Chinese or Russian governments for “orientalism”: https://lemmy.pineapplemachine.com/post/5784
Nothing wrong per se with communism itself, it just tends to be extremely unstable and quickly turns to authoritarianism, I don’t think it’s ever worked for any nation in history so far.
The defending of Uyghur genocides, and the defending of the CCP and Russian government is really concerning though. Good thing this platform is federated.
libretro has a similar problem, it’s developed by a team of transphobic, homophobic, racist Russian apologists who border on Nazism. I don’t know what attracts these people to FOSS development.
the modern russian state is not the soviet union, it is who america put in charge after creating a situation that led to millions of deaths.
The fact that you can believe this narrative literally spawned by the people who currently control and siphon away 50% or more of Russia’s entire GDP into foreign bank accounts under the whip of Vladimir “East German KGB-operative” Putin is pretty astounding.
Because it isn’t logical, because it is all a mess. Yet because Russia claims Soviet glory and tankies actively shows the current regime reverence as if Putin was a General Secretary, it is rather hard to actually make a distinction between the current authoritarian regime and the one of the Soviets - the fact of the matter is that Russian political culture whether royalist, communist or capitalist doesn’t change.
Yeah I find this so funny, liberals only pretend to care about LGBTQ+ people to virtue signal. Cuba has better LGBTQ+ rights than most Western countries.
“Let us take by way if example a cotton spinning mill. The cotton must pass through at least six successive operations before it is reduced to the state of thread, and these operations take place for the most part in different rooms. Furthermore, keeping the machines going requires an engineer to look after the steam engine, mechanics to make the current repairs, and many other labourers whose business it is to transfer the products from one room to another, and so forth. All these workers, men, women and children, are obliged to begin and finish their work at the hours fixed by the authority of the steam, which cares nothing for individual autonomy. The workers must, therefore, first come to an understanding on the hours of work; and these hours, once they are fixed, must be observed by all, without any exception. Thereafter particular questions arise in each room and at every moment concerning the mode of production, distribution of material, etc., which must be settled by decision of a delegate placed at the head of each branch of labour or, if possible, by a majority vote, the will of the single individual will always have to subordinate itself, which means that questions are settled in an authoritarian way.”
This is the dumbest take i ever read. You can literally choose not to work at that factory. Did you really read this book? Or are you just defaulting to a NPC response? If you really read the book you would understand how dumb it is to recommend it to people who are against authoritarianism.
I fail to see the dumbness of what Engels writes. In fact, I find it hilarious that you act like you are better informed than a literal communist political theorist on what communism is or isn’t, but go on bestie💁♀️💅.
You speak of authoritarian communism as being bad, when what is basically one of the fathers of communism directly states that authoritarian means need to be used, and furthermore he states a revolution itself is authoritarian, which would be clear to you if you actually read theory🥱.
And talking about NPC responses, maybe take a look in the mirror, it would do you good in more than one way🤗
Gotta ask for both a source and your definition of a “tankie”.
You keep using that word, I don’t think it means what you think it means.
A tankie is someone who supports authoritarian communism (I believe the term originated from using tanks to suppress protests)
Here’s a post showing that the main instance of Lemmy (hosted by the main 2 Lemmy devs) removes any negative posts about the Chinese or Russian governments for “orientalism”: https://lemmy.pineapplemachine.com/post/5784
In the comments of that post, you can find one of the devs borderline defending what China is doing to the Uyghurs: https://lemmy.pineapplemachine.com/comment/5950
That same dev has a github repo called “essays on communism”: https://github.com/dessalines/essays
I’m pretty sure both of the devs’ profile pictures are Fidel Castro too
Aight fair enough, that’s pretty concerning.
Nothing wrong per se with communism itself, it just tends to be extremely unstable and quickly turns to authoritarianism, I don’t think it’s ever worked for any nation in history so far.
The defending of Uyghur genocides, and the defending of the CCP and Russian government is really concerning though. Good thing this platform is federated.
libretro has a similar problem, it’s developed by a team of transphobic, homophobic, racist Russian apologists who border on Nazism. I don’t know what attracts these people to FOSS development.
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The fact that you can believe this narrative literally spawned by the people who currently control and siphon away 50% or more of Russia’s entire GDP into foreign bank accounts under the whip of Vladimir “East German KGB-operative” Putin is pretty astounding.
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Hey, just fyi, there are different branches of communism. The most popular ones vehemently oppose Russia, China, and North Korea.
u/CommunistLady is part of the delusional few who are pro-China, but please don’t attack communists as a whole because of the loud idiots.
Your outrage is completely misguided.
Say Russia was trying to “exterminate gay people”: it is a capitalist country.
You can’t present the deeds of capitalists as evidence of communist wrongdoing.
…it would great if the tankies could understand that fact to be case in any other context when discussing Russia, but they don’t, so we won’t.
Not a fan of that logic
Because it isn’t logical, because it is all a mess. Yet because Russia claims Soviet glory and tankies actively shows the current regime reverence as if Putin was a General Secretary, it is rather hard to actually make a distinction between the current authoritarian regime and the one of the Soviets - the fact of the matter is that Russian political culture whether royalist, communist or capitalist doesn’t change.
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Yeah I find this so funny, liberals only pretend to care about LGBTQ+ people to virtue signal. Cuba has better LGBTQ+ rights than most Western countries.
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Fuck authoritarian commies. Better?
Please read ‘On Authority’ by Engels and then re-evaluate your comment🤦
This is the dumbest take i ever read. You can literally choose not to work at that factory. Did you really read this book? Or are you just defaulting to a NPC response? If you really read the book you would understand how dumb it is to recommend it to people who are against authoritarianism.
Damn, so living in a society implies that sometimes you don’t get what you want? And therefore authoritarianism is obligatory?
That’s so ridiculously stupid lmao. It’s like a child’s understanding of life “I don’t get what I want so this is tyranny”.
I fail to see the dumbness of what Engels writes. In fact, I find it hilarious that you act like you are better informed than a literal communist political theorist on what communism is or isn’t, but go on bestie💁♀️💅.
You speak of authoritarian communism as being bad, when what is basically one of the fathers of communism directly states that authoritarian means need to be used, and furthermore he states a revolution itself is authoritarian, which would be clear to you if you actually read theory🥱.
And talking about NPC responses, maybe take a look in the mirror, it would do you good in more than one way🤗