joker-dancing

  • Kaplya@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    I don’t think this is a good move. It will only trigger the persecution complex of the conservatives, even those who don’t like Trump, and they will come out in droves just to stick it to the Democrats to make a point.

    Why do anything like this when Biden already has the upper hand (disregard the polling, which is way too early to be informative at this point).

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        Still not a good idea to let Trump become the martyr that unifies the conservatives. I’m talking not just the crazy MAGA people, but the moderate conservatives that may have been repulsed by Trump, and are starting to see that Biden is actually more capable of realizing their vision.

        Now they are just going to see the Democrats as “openly out to persecute conservatives”, and if they don’t defend Trump, whom they don’t like, they could be next.

        • FactuallyUnscrupulou [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          I’ve got a feeling that Trump will skirt any form of justice and die peacefully one day. It seems like more people are coming around to the idea that Trump will remain a free man and maybe president because the government really doesn’t want to stop him. Let SCOTUS write some more crazy bullshit further delegitimizing their standing. The more jarring the spectacle of the US government becomes the more likely people could lose faith in it’s institutions.

    • Dolores [love/loves]@hexbear.net
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      come out in droves just to stick it to the Democrats to make a point

      think-about-it how they gonna do that if the big wet boy ain’t on the ballot?

      90% forecast of a terrorism about it if they don’t retreat on appeal tho

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        This is assuming that Democrats can get enough states to ban Trump from running to prevent him from winning. Otherwise it’s just going to rile up the conservatives across the country and put the swing states in danger.

        • Dolores [love/loves]@hexbear.net
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          well it’s too soon to tell, in actuality. but dems doing a legalistic cockblock isn’t inherently a wrong move unless they fail to do it sufficiently to secure a victory, is it? i’m not going to do the math rn but if enough electoral votes are on the table that they could secure as such, i’d be willing to declare this an astute political move.

          greatest liability being the US supreme court overruling them i imagine

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          if this is legal in one state it’s legal in every state. the argument is based on constitutional law. not sure if (assuming the ruling survives the openly corrupt SCotUS) this would automatically disqualify him everywhere or if there would have to be separate legal proceedings in each state that wants to disqualify him, but those proceedings are already happening in several states and upholding this ruling would essentially mean Trump has to try to win without several swing states. PA and WI have dem majorities on their state supreme courts and there’s already a 14th amendment challenge over trump’s candidacy in PA.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Colorado has judicial elections doesn’t it? Easy political win for lib judges to stoke their base by saying that they protected democracy by ruling against Drumpf.

    • D61 [any]@hexbear.net
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      The 4-3 ruling , which rests on an interpretation of the 14th Amendment, will almost certainly force the issue to the U.S. Supreme Court to resolve whether Trump, the leading candidate for the Republican nomination, is eligible to hold future public office.

      When this gets to the SCOTUS they will rule the opposite.