Tesla recalls 120,000 vehicles over potentially faulty doors that could open in a crash::Tesla is recalling Tesla Model S luxury sedans and Model X SUVs manufactured in 2022 and 2023 due to the vehicles’ failure to comply with U.S. government regulations.

  • slimarev92@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Technically its a recall, but it’s really a software update that all owners will receive without doing anything special. I’m not a fan of Tesla by any means, but let’s not sharpen the pitchforks just yet.

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      11 months ago

      Even ignoring bizarre stuff like this, it’s priced like a Jaguar and has the build quality of a Yugo. I say keep sharpening.

      • andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun
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        11 months ago

        And the 0-60 of a Koenigsegg at 1/20 the price, but also electric and potentially economical to drive.

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          11 months ago

          0-60 of race car is the last thing a normal driver needs from a car. If you’ll come up with a made up scenario where you have to floor it to save your life I will scream.

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          11 months ago

          A Koeniggsegg handles much better and is well-built, though. It’s meant for the track and it does that well.

          In contrast, a Tesla Model S is an unnecessarily quick and overpriced family car with a dubious safety record due in part to having the build quality of a Yugo.

        • VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf
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          11 months ago

          I disagree. It’s tantamount to fraud and you better believe people have died because of it.

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            11 months ago

            People have died because of the price gouging? Im no musk fan boy but this echo chamber of nonsense with you people just makes this community seem completely ridiculous. Car companies have been selling crap with high price tags since cars were a thing.

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              People have died because of the price gouging?

              No, because of the bad build quality, obviously.

              For some reason, “fast, shoddily built and weighs two metric tons” isn’t great for avoiding faults that sometimes lead to fatalities.

              Maybe think for a second more before you start ranting about someone else being ridiculous 🙄

              • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
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                11 months ago

                The comment was bout the price / quality differential. Anyway, what data are you looking at that the build quality affects safety? I have only seen high safety ratings and build quality being about panel lines and interior material complaints etc, not safety.

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                  11 months ago

                  For example, below is the kind of welding that passes muster at Tesla. The Tesla quality assurance as instituted by Musk himself is “don’t. It makes the wait lists shrink more slowly”.

                  Would you feel safe accelerating 0-60 in under 4 seconds in two tons of badly assembled steel? I sure wouldn’t!

                  • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
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                    11 months ago

                    Well, I’m more of a math and data kind of guy. I don’t drive a Tesla and likely never will but Tesla has exceeded safety test rankings beyond the vast majority of other manufacturers and has received numerous top accolades from very reputable safety sources. They may skimp on cosmetic quality, but their track record does not suggest they have on safety. But say what you want, my point here is that this is an echo chamber of nonsense and you will surely find the support you crave here.

    • Buffalox@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      Just because the recall is an over the air fix, doesn’t make it less serious. Which is probably why it’s called a recall.

      • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
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        Well, with a conventional recall many defunct vehicles will never get repaired and still driven for years whereas this fix will be rapid and hard to avoid even if one tried. It’s not not serious, but the implications are much less severe. Can call it a recall but it’s not equivalent to what most manufacturers call a recall.

        • piecat@lemmy.world
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          11 months ago

          No, it’s a recall by definition.

          A recall is issued when a manufacturer or NHTSA determines that a vehicle, equipment, car seat, or tire creates an unreasonable safety risk or fails to meet minimum safety standards.

          Safety issue: door opens during a crash

          Manufacturers are required to fix the problem by repairing it, replacing it, offering a refund, or in rare cases repurchasing the vehicle.

          Repair: software patch

      • Revonult@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        Not a tesla fan either but it kinda is less serious. I assume the compliance % of an over the air update is much higher than physical recalls. Like I bet people are still driving with faulty Takata airbags or other serious recalls.

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      11 months ago

      I think what makes it a recall is that the NHTSA points out a fault and requires the manufacturer to fix it. It just happens that Tesla has the ability to use OTA updates. So not sure there is a difference in severity just because a fix is software.

      But it does raise the question for me if it’s a simple software fix why did Tesla wait for the NHTSA? Don’t they have tons of live diagnostic data from their cars?

    • Snapz@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      “…let’s not sharpen the pitchforks just yet” this is like the 845th domino that’s fallen? You’re not a serious person.