There are different opinions on Beehaw’s registration process. I kind of see how some people would find it dissuasive, specially after most of us are coming from Reddit. But I still think it’s very practical, at least for the time being.
Btw, this is only my opinion as a new user, I don’t know any of the admins/mods. Link to my original comment.
I come from a different point-of-view that I support the question portion, but I did find it hindered me slightly. Only because of my own anxiety, not because it’s a bad idea.
I mostly wanted to reply how the handling of my application was really personable, in case anyone else is lurking and finds it intimidating, like I did for a week or two. It’s not a college thesis and I imagine those running beehaw want more people to make the place more bustling.
I think the little question bit being there will lead to a better environment overall. I’m outing myself, but back in my roleplay forum days the ones with a bit of an application process had better quality engagement. Ymmv, of course.
Honestly, I was more frustrated with the spinner of doom that kept me from actually submitting my registration for a few days. That meant re-writing my response to that application question until I decided to just save it in notepad until I was able to get a registration form actually submitted.
The “interview” process itself makes total sense, and I’m happy to have even something so simple that helps keep some of the low-effort riff-raff out.
I managed to submit mine, but then I tried to log in later and got the spinning wheel. I thought that was some sort of time-out, so I tried a few more times, then gave up. It wasn’t until later I was on a different server and people were talking about that spinning wheel and realized it prpbably just meant they hadnt gotten to approving me yet. I waited a few days and was let in.
I didn’t put my email address in, though, because it was “optional”, and then afterwards realized that was dumb, because they have no way of telling me I was approved. Oh well.
I don’t see the problem with having a requirement that someone who wants to join a discussion forum actually be able to write a few coherent sentences first.
Yeah… I feel like the registration process is a made worse experience overall because of the software bugs/limitations rather than Beehaw’s reasonable requirements. I hope the software will improve over time
Same happened to me. It’s mainly caused by a bug in Lemmy itself, so I’m sure this issue will get fixed at some point. It might definitely scare people off the fediverse.
I completely agree with the three questions for screening. It only took me a few minutes to answer after reading the guidelines. It looks like people are making a bigger fuzz out of this than it really is.
Yeah, happened to me too lol. But that’s mostly the software/server’s fault rather than Beehaw’s admins. I hope they improve that in the future, specially for new non-technical users.
Oh, yeah absolutely not placing that on the Beehaw admin’s, I figured it was just a quirk of a younger system here and felt like this place was worth the extra work to get in, whether that was just a short question to answer or a couple days of troubleshooting a technical issue.
So far, so good!
I wasnt expecting it. But it made me think about my motivation for joining above and beyond “an alternative to Reddit”. It took a couple of minutes thought while standing in the post office queue! Instead of mindlessly auto completeing another registration page, I actually spent a fraction of my day thinking about why i was doing it. I found it quite fulfilling.
I think it’s a good idea. I have no problem doing this for these instances. It’s to protect the community. If it were Facebook, then I’d not do it because I know they are selling my information.
Right? Facebook wouldn’t ask because they cared or wanted to maintain the quality of the community. They’d ask only as a way to harvest a commodity.
I just went through the registration process and I really liked it. It didn’t go smoothly because of technical problems (the spinning wheel of doom), but this can be fixed.
The fact that users have to read, think and write about the beehaw philosophy makes it far easier to avoid trolls.
I didn’t think it was too bad. Like others I wrote 3 sentences or so basically just answering the questions honestly. I was approved fairly quickly.
I wrote a frikkin’ essay. I wish I’d saved a copy because I was sure they were going to read it and file it under “whackadoodle: do not admit.”
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Maybe it was because I joined during the influx but I got away with two lazy sentences. Something like, “reddits on strike and I ain’t a scab. I’ll post about geeky programming stuff.” I mean, it really does take the bare minimum
To me, that first sentence was enough. jk
The funny thing is I actually got rejected (or put in the limbo) once. After making this account and answering the questions exhaustively, I tried to make another account for foss/programming purposes exclusively (I tend to do that for privacy reasons). The second time my answers were much shorter since I didn’t want to take up too much time from the admins , and I guess they weren’t too convinced, haha. But no hard feelings, I just hope my username eventually frees up and I can make the account :)
There are also some bugs that may throw you into limbo as well on lemmy. Some of them seem like insanely basic oversights like how if you pick an already taken user name it will just spin indefinitely
Oh yeah, that happened to me too. It won’t even tell you the reason why. When I checked, I was actually surprised somebody else had already picked the username I wanted so early lol (Hi @styx@beehaw.org, we had the same idea haha)
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Accounts are created on registration so while you may not have been approved it’s possible that is your account.
This it not the case, haha. I checked and they had made the account before me and had some posts/comments. So we just had the same idea, I guess
Hello there!
hey, cool username!
Thanks, yours too 😊
By the way, I don’t know if this is a good time/way to ask, but is it even allowed to register a second account? I tried searching if there was a rule against it, but I couldn’t find anything. If it’s not, I completely understand and will make another account in a different server :) (Although I would prefer it be here bc I wouldn’t feel as comfortable in other instances 😢)
Pinging some of the admins, I hope you’re not too busy. @alyaza@beehaw.org @Gaywallet@beehaw.org @admin@beehaw.org
Why do you want a second account
If you don’t already know about programming.dev or discuss.online, you may want to consider them for your second account.
Thanks! I didn’t know about them. And genuinely curious, do these instances have good moderation/community similar to here on Beehaw?
You mentioned wanting a programming centric account, so programming.dev makes sense. They don’t allow open creation of communities. They must be requested, they must be tech related (don’t know if this might change). They seem to want to keep the discussions on tech and programming.
discuss.online’s admin is working on creating some moderation tools for Lemmy admins. I’ve been chatting with him on the discuss.online Matrix server. He seems like someone that will build a good community.
Their moderation ethos are not hashed out like Beehaw, but they have both started up this month and I like the vibes so far.
If those don’t work out, I’m also starting up an instance that will be up and running soon at grok.town with an ethos that largely overlaps with Beehaw. But at the moment I only have a matrix space set up at https://matrix.to/#/#groktown:matrix.org
Sorry for the late reply, I’ve been a bit busy. But I’ll definitely have a look at them when I get some time. programming.dev seems like it would fit. And ping me when you start your instance and I’ll check it out as well 👍 thanks
I was just accepted yesterday. I have social anxiety, so a younger, less self-aware version of myself would never have even submitted it. But thank goodness I’ve gotten better at this type of thing. Instead of over-analyzing and writing a huge essay, I timeboxed my response. Thankfully, it seems to have worked.
From what I can tell, I really do align with what the admins are after, here. I hope that it continues to work well.
Vetting users with a questionnaire is a good idea, allows admins to see who they should let in. What and how a person answers the questions tells a lot about the applicant.
They asked what I thought I could add to the community and I wrote something about sports and apparently they aren’t interested in that so they denied me.
Lol seriously?
Yes. They didn’t personally ask me. It’s just one of the intake questions questions.
Maybe they just wanted to go in depth? No clue
How long ago did you apply? I thought I got denied the first time I applied, as my first application was relatively short, but much to my surprise I got accepted several days later. It might be possible your application was unfortunately overlooked as the admins have to look at hundreds of apps per day.
I applied like twice. Wrote the same thing in phrasing though. I applied I think the day before the blackout first (no response) and then about like 4 days ago and got a message yesterday that I was denied and I could try to apply again another time. This first time I applied I maybe have referenced that I was fleeing reddit so maybe they didn’t like me talking about it (though I’m sure it’s true od like 90 percent of their users).
I suppose it’s possible the denial i got was just a really late reply to my first attempt.
i know for a fact there are a lot of people in-queue who we’ll be approving, so yeah
Ya that place has huge dog-walking reddit mod energy. I couldn’t possibly care less what their instance is doing.
You’re posting on it, so you must care somewhat…
I probably wrote “too much” as I was thrilled to find a place which is working towards kindness and community :)
My general rule of thumb is that things tend to go better if every owner, admin or mod team utilises the approaches which work best for them. If an instance is functioning well, I’m going to start from a place of trust that what they’ve made a good choice for themselves and the existing community. It’s up to me to decide if it’s also a reasonable choice for myself or if somewhere else would be a better match.
Beehaw’s registration process is quite easy, asking you only to write a few words on why you want to join (which could just be “it seems like a nice instance”), in comparison to other registration processes I’ve seen and done.
I’ve been through registration process where to guarantee that you’ve read the rules and anything required would hide words in the post containing that essential content and then asked you questions of which the answers where those words. Sometimes with the addition on asking you why you wanted to join.
This (Beehaw’s registration process) is nothing in comparison
I don’t get what all the fuss is about. I told them I don’t like Nazis and was approved within minutes. It was not a complicated process.
I wrote like 6 sentences. Got accepted in like 16 hours. Just said I disliked the authoritarian left on the main instance and prefered the sense of community Beehaw provides.
Honestly, if you aren’t prepared to fill out a simple text box to join the instance, I’d prefer you went somewhere else.
Or if you’re just going to lurk… you don’t need to make an account at all! As I did for the first week before deciding on whether or not to join, lmao
Right? If you can’t come up with a minimal answer to a very simple question, how could you possibly contribute positively in any way whatsoever here? And why would you even want to join this instance? This isn’t meant to be a shitposting low effort instance…
I actually really liked it as an exercise in reflection.
I probably wrote too much in mine, a good full paragraph for each. They really just need to create the slightest barrier to entry to make moderating 10x easier.
I’ve been through a bit of an emotionally exhausting week with some personal things…
I suspect some of that might have come through on my mini essay … uh… sorry to whoever had to read it?
But hey I’m here so…
Why do you want to join Beehaw
I just want to feel something. Even the pain of a thousand Cowbee stings. Anything. Let me in. Hurt me.
They need to add a word limit though, I think I went a bit overboard lol
There were rules to read? Can I leave my shirt off?