• Daft_ish@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    The_donald was the only lesson I needed to learn what conservatives thought of free speech.

    It would be interesting to know what conservatives actually believe. By this point we’ve broken down each and everyone of their professed beliefs and found nothing of substance.

    Here is a list of things I remember conservatives use to say their ideology was based on:

    *Christian morals - You can even look back at their warped version of Christian morality from 1970s forward and still say today that Trump has fully exposed them to be baseless

    *Small government - Trump and Co are actively trying to expand government authority and have successfully taken away the rights of woman all over the US

    *Democracy - Trump told democracy to go fuck itself Jan. 6 2021

    *Capitalism - Capitilism for the serfs socialism for the capitilists

    *American Exceptionalism - At some point America was great but I’m not going to say when.

    *No Child Left Behind - jk jk we knew that was bullshit from the get go

    *Free speech - ahem I mean free ‘hate’ speech. all other speech is negotiable.

    The list goes on my dudes. Would love to know what these people really believe. My guess is nothing. They are just mad and acting out. We’ve all seen it growing up. The people who just refuse to help themselves no matter what you do and you’re constantly picking up the pieces for them.

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      11 months ago

      “Conservatives don’t care about free speech. Conservatives cares about power. Faithfulness, old-time values, homemade bread, that’s the just means to the end. It’s a distraction. I thought you would have figured that out by now.”

      • slightly altered quote from Handmaid’s Tale
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      11 months ago

      Copied this from another post I made… things make more sense when you realize what their true core principle is.

      There is a good Adam Conover podcast episode where he interviews Corey Robin. In the episode Robin states the main premise of his book, which is that the central underlying ideology of the right is the belief that some people are better than others and deserve to be in power. A lot of the rights’ beliefs and ideas evolve over time but they evolve in service of that core idea. It’s the one thing that stays consistent over time going back to the french revolutions.

      Multiracial, multiethnic, international cooperation, helping the homeless, helping the poor. No matter how you spin it by trying to convince them of the benefits ect, the right will never be on board. They don’t believe those groups deserve help or should be helped. They fundamentally believe it is morally good to depower certain groups and empower other groups.

      That one idea explains so much of the rights blatant hypocrisy. Welfare disproportionality going to red states is good because it’s going to the good people. Rich people getting richer is good because it’s going to the good people. Hurting minorities is good because they are the bad people, helping them is bad. Some people are innately worthy and some people are not. Anything the good people do is good, anything the bad people do is bad. The same action can be good or bad depending on who is doing it.

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      11 months ago

      It is abundantly clear that they do not believe in anything and operate on the basis of reacting in spite to anything they are told to. It’s basically one whole hemisphere of the political spectrum hijacked by propaganda. We genx folk thought that the free access to information on the internet would set people free but this what we got instead.

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      11 months ago

      Care to elaborate that bit about capitalism?

      As a non-American, I’ve been struggling to understand how Americans use these terms. Sure, I’ve seen plenty of “capitalism good, socialism bad” rhetoric, but what do people actually mean when they use them? Your example was particularly interesting, because it sounds like you’re implying that Trump promised capitalism, but failed to deliver.