Robustness is critical when developing new battery cells. In the automotive industry, companies shoot for no worse than a 20 percent capacity loss after 700 charging cycles....
I hear what you’re saying, but they invested tens of billions in this technology, and they were apparently the first to solve the dendrite issue that prevented SS batteries from being produced to scale. I’m confident they’ve figured it out. We’ll have to wait and see.
Imagine being on a project too big to fail. Someone might have felt inclined to tinker with the data. Happens in the science community, could happen again here.
So, they are heavily invested in this being a success, both financially and for the prestige of being first? To the point of likely costing someone a lot of money and maybe their job if they hadnt produced results?
The kind of situation where they would be tempted to tweak results a bit, perhaps?
Given that we’re talking about batteries… Remember what phone and laptop manufacturers say about their batteries?
On top of that, these are solid state batteries, not your usual Li-ion batteries with a liquid electrolyte. This is the first time I’ve heard of a large well known company announce they’re using solid state batteries.
That technology has been under development for decades, and it has been applied in some very special devices before, but maybe now it’s finally the time to start large scale production.
Finding the right materials has been really hard, but the next obstacle is scaling up the production. As long as we’re talking about small scale production, these batteries are going to be really expensive and only suitable for very few products.
VW is suggesting that they have solved both of these problems, which obviously makes me a bit skeptical. However, I don’t think it’s impossible, but I’m saying it’s really hard. I would have expected to see some luxury products use SSBs first before seeing them in main stream brands.
Never gonna buy a volkswagen purely because of that BS, I guess it helps that most of their cars are expensive junk that is always breaking and expensive af to fix and maintain like lots of german cars…
Unless things have changed in the last 3 or 4 years Volkswagens consistently come out pretty badly in reliability and cost of maintenance ratings. So do most German car brands.
I know people love their German cars but they suck at actually being cars, sorry?
Given that this is VW, I’ll wait until someone else verifies this.
“No, no, we only cheated that one time, it’s in the past. Let it go. We’ve had our one lie, now we’re perfectly honest!”
Definitely read that in a German accent
I hear what you’re saying, but they invested tens of billions in this technology, and they were apparently the first to solve the dendrite issue that prevented SS batteries from being produced to scale. I’m confident they’ve figured it out. We’ll have to wait and see.
Imagine being on a project too big to fail. Someone might have felt inclined to tinker with the data. Happens in the science community, could happen again here.
Plus VW produced SS equipment at scale in the past, but they don’t like to talk about it.
So, they are heavily invested in this being a success, both financially and for the prestige of being first? To the point of likely costing someone a lot of money and maybe their job if they hadnt produced results?
The kind of situation where they would be tempted to tweak results a bit, perhaps?
Given that we’re talking about batteries… Remember what phone and laptop manufacturers say about their batteries?
On top of that, these are solid state batteries, not your usual Li-ion batteries with a liquid electrolyte. This is the first time I’ve heard of a large well known company announce they’re using solid state batteries.
That technology has been under development for decades, and it has been applied in some very special devices before, but maybe now it’s finally the time to start large scale production.
Toyota has been telling us solid state batteries are coming soon since … 2012ish 😀
We’re still waiting
Finding the right materials has been really hard, but the next obstacle is scaling up the production. As long as we’re talking about small scale production, these batteries are going to be really expensive and only suitable for very few products.
VW is suggesting that they have solved both of these problems, which obviously makes me a bit skeptical. However, I don’t think it’s impossible, but I’m saying it’s really hard. I would have expected to see some luxury products use SSBs first before seeing them in main stream brands.
yea dude its absolutely not true no need. its called a lie 🤥
Never gonna buy a volkswagen purely because of that BS, I guess it helps that most of their cars are expensive junk that is always breaking and expensive af to fix and maintain like lots of german cars…
My man. I don’t know where you get you b grade VW from. Here everyone drives them for the longevity
Unless things have changed in the last 3 or 4 years Volkswagens consistently come out pretty badly in reliability and cost of maintenance ratings. So do most German car brands.
I know people love their German cars but they suck at actually being cars, sorry?