I think the title speaks for itself.
EDIT: UPDATE: So apparently the former r/jailbait mod that is The CEO purged the sub’s mods and forced the sub to re-reopen under the old rules.
Mission failed! We’ll get them next time!
EDIT2: aaaaaaand the sub’s archived and no longer accepts new submissions. The garbage fire keeps going…
Reddit is only valuable because of the content users provide. If you don’t post valuable content, the site is worthless. Reddit can force subs back open, but they can’t force users to submit the content that makes the site valuable to begin with.
This is what Reddit forgot. They don’t implicitly provide any value, it’s the community that provides the value. Reddit is just the place where people happen to post.
So…do we know if Reddit iself is behind flooding subs with comments about how mods are being jerks and hurting the communities pointlessly? It’s weird, the same kinds of comments in every sub I’m in. Also lots of comments about how Lemmy is too complicated. 😆
I’ve suspected Reddit’s ownership of running bots on their own platform for awhile. This feels like confirmation, to me.
There have been screenshots of pro-admin/anti-mod comments that were clearly written by chatGPT (e.g. including the “as a neural network” or whatever boilerplate). They could be fakes or false flags, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they were real.
The “Lemmy is too complicated” part I can believe is organic from normie Redittors, though.
i feel like speez is the ultimate reddit troll… a weird embodiment of the negative aspects of the spirit of the site.
Given how much they have lied about already and the crap Huffman has pulled in the past, I would not doubt it in the least. I am sure they are doing all sorts of mind-games crap like this to try and keep users from fleeing. They have to be freaking out right about now.
All I can do as a user is take my content and time elsewhere. Which is why I’m here. Hoping that like has happened on mastodon, we will slowly move past the “Reddit news” phase and just transition into people contributing to communities and building apps for Lemmy/Kbin.
I used to go to the /r/nfl free talk threads and the day after it opened HUNDREDS of new accounts were posting talking about how the mods were pussies and blah blah.
It felt fucking surreal like 2016 Russian bot astroturfing all over again.
Not just that but moderation curating that content prevents the site from enshittifying and degenerating into sludge.
People complain about mods but without mods you get essentially a forum where every poster is ChatGPT.
maybe more subs should fight with this. it is kinda funny. i would love to see reddit flop from this.
You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink.
It’s a porn sub and it’s more inclusive now, unless Reddit wants to keep discriminating against sex workers.
They are clearly itching to ban NSFW content site wide (paid API doesn’t even include NSFW posts). This sort of thing might make a good excuse.
But at the same time, who is going to enforce that? The unpaid moderators you just fired? LOL
A lot of their users would leave.
It was why spez championed subs like /r/jailbait staying open until they got bad publicity in the mainstream press.
Why does reddit consolidating all nsfw content delivery under its website and first party app suggest they want to stop NSFW content?
They don’t want to deal with the legal implications of it. Spez has said ad nauseum that they don’t want to risk 3PA providing NSFW content to users that Reddit is not allowed to serve because they don’t want to be held responsible for that. Especially now that some US states are requiring actual ID verification for 18+ content.
While Spez is a lying weasel, I don’t doubt that Reddit is worried about NSFW-related lawsuits, bad press, and ad revenue impact.
And, the next step after having control of the content is to further restrict it.
i would say that nsfw content as well as grey legal content was a big part of reddits appeal. Frome homemade porn to piracy and dnm how tos up to documentation of current wars filled with gore.
It felt like users were relatively well considered self responsible adults, unlike on other platforms.
Losing that is another loss of value. all the while nsfw bans are difficult to enforce without enough moderators.
Yeah, I simultaneously don’t blame them, and suspect a high amount of their traffic comes from NSFW forums. Allegedly Spez was a /r/Jailbait mod and if so, eww, he should have known better.
I wouldn’t blame them for trying to find a way to monetize the NSFW content, because it’s become a dumping ground for Onlyfans promotion.
Reddit could require some kind of verification on the account level and still allow 3rd party apps to work though. Seems like an excuse or they are just being lazy.
I mean, I find that more interesting. lol
Lol, I keep reddit just to enjoy the massive porn tsunami that will flood every subreddit.
Oh. my. god. That is hilarious! Looks like other subreddits are joining in on the shenanigans too hahaha
The possibilities here are endless
“Amagi’s toes are interesting” “This penis has an interesting vain”
I can’t wait to get off work, this sounds hilarious.
They’re not lowering the standard on what qualifies as interesting, they’re just taking the “fuck” part to the letter lmao.
I really hope this leads to actual change. Subreddits are becoming meaningless to visit and frustrating for normal users, so hopefully they just stop using reddit altogether.
I already seen a bunch of comments like “why are mods doing this, it’s hurting my and other users experience” and I’m sitting here like that’s kind of the point haha. Reddit relies on all those mods to curate those subs and so now they’re gonna to do it in a way to make the experience less appealing for them and for advertisers. Like it sucks but then again you are using a site heavily reliant on volunteers who are near universally upset by the recent changes
When your website relies on the free labour of thousands, you’d think you might want to tred carefully in hopes of not alienating too many people at once.
The worst thing for Reddit is that they don’t advertise against NSFW content. This has major revenue implications for Reddit.
I love how Mods Tell they are “forced” what is reddit gonna Do otherwise? Dont pay them?
Oh wait…
I do think if they open with malicious compliance, it’s better than if they open with moderators that wanna replace and wanna do their best to keep the sub going
People get suckered into the sunk-costs fallacy all of the time, and managers of large communities are going to be extra prone to it when they’re told they’ll have “their communities” taken away from them.
Remember, these people are fighting to “save Reddit”. They see the possibility of having corporate friendly scabs take over as a community-destroying and a Reddit destroying proposition.
The event horizon of a black hole is the 2-dimensional surface across which the possibility of turning back is eliminated. At that point, space and time become so twisted that there is no longer an “outwards” direction. Every road leads in. But in supermassive black holes, that event horizon is so far away from the centre that the actual tidal forces – the forces which pull things apart when they’re near large gravity sources – are remarkably weak. You would not notice the difference between being 1 km above the event horizon and 1 km beneath it. If you weren’t being careful, you could cross that event horizon without ceremony and without realizing you’d doomed yourself.
This is how it is with big services, too. The thing that makes them irrelevant happens long before revenues or usage decline. In fact, there’s likely still growth! But there’ll be an inflection point in the acceleration that those who don’t know what to look for won’t even notice. Then it could take months, or even years, for things to turn around and decay into nothing of value.
These mods are trying to save something that has already experienced its killing blow. Something that will cease being what it was long before it ceases to be. Something that has already quietly – though not too quietly – slipped past the event horizon.
I would like to say that this analogy owns.
The hard scifi nerd in me appreciated that metaphor.
GUYS, IF YOU DON’T STOP, I’M GONNA GET REALLY, REALLY MAD! ;( - spez
And then… I gonna write a Letter how mad i am!
This is hilarious.
Waiting for mem with r/spez saying “wait no, not like this”probably leaving Reddit for good soon…
This is epic level malicious compliance. Best way to run a SFW sub into the ground is opening it up to NSFW content.
TIL reddit cant run ads on NSFW Subreddits!
Did that include the reddit app? If someone had their subscription set up with only NSFW subs would that not display ads on their home feed?
that actually makes a lot of sense when i think of the banning of NSFW over API, damn, get that money spez
Realistically nothing is stopping them from doing so it’s their own policies which is kinda dumb af. All they’d have to do is prevent ads from brands that don’t want to be associated with it from showing there.
The fact they don’t show advertisements on NSFW subs/posts just tells me their advertising tools and targeting are absolutely sub par.
As a professional marketer and advertiser, that’s not correct.
What keeps them from doing it is that most high-dollar advertisers don’t want their ads/brand appearing next to NSFW content.
It’s probably more difficult for Reddit to filter out NSFW ad impressions rather than just let ads appear anywhere. But advertisers demand it, so they have to do it to get the dollars.
You literally just said I was right and regurgitated everything I said in other words…You just admitted its too hard for them so their system is subpar. They can advertise it would just make less than SFW advertisements.
“The one trick that all advertisers hate!” LOL
I thought i was logged onto the wrong account LOL
Same. I never subbed to pornographic subreddits, so when I saw a lady broadcasting her breasts on my front page, I had to do a double take. And then I made this post here xD
