There are a lot of new Instances are less than a week old. I think Moderators need to tend to their own forums and not have to deal with crossposts from other instances until the moderating tools are more mature. If they need to defederate temporarily, I’ve got no problem with it.
Now, if Beehaw wants to create a “walled garden” just because their mods are power-hungry jerks, remember that there are nearly 900 Instances on lemmy (according to lemmy explorer). If mods ruin a community for fans, the fans can simply unsubscribe, move to the second (or third) most popular Instance and re-subscribe / re-create the forum there and the mods of the first Instance can’t do anything about it (because they voluntarily defederated). The distributed nature of lemmy means that the fans decide what forums are popular. It will be easy to see by sheer number of subscribers, which lemmy/Memes is the “real” one and which one is being run by the jerks.
This also means that corporations can’t screw up an entire social network (like what’s happening to Reddit right now). Reddit is basically a social network platform with tens of thousands of communities and ONE Instance. This makes it easy for a money-grubbing corporation to ruin things for everybody. However, if a company tries to ruin the most popular Instance on lemmy, everyone will just migrate to the second (or third) most popular Instance and the first one will wither and die.
And almost all of those are not Lemmy instances. That’s a Mastodon block list, and is overwhelmingly made up of Pleroma and Mastodon sites well known for shitty brhaviour.
I just looked at the list. The domain names alone paint a picture of far right/red pill/sketchy pedo sites… Nothing too surprising. Hey, if you’re into that stuff, you do you, but that block list is far, far, far from controversial
Communities are not things that can be infinitely fractured and divided without adverse consequences. Humans aren’t fungibility automatons and mere statistics.
The only reasonable design decision is to actively prevent the formation of “a biggest instance”. Concentration of power will always kill communities. I was in slashdot then Digg then Reddit, concentration of power always lead to abuse of power and leveraging that power against the users.
There are a lot of new Instances are less than a week old. I think Moderators need to tend to their own forums and not have to deal with crossposts from other instances until the moderating tools are more mature. If they need to defederate temporarily, I’ve got no problem with it.
Now, if Beehaw wants to create a “walled garden” just because their mods are power-hungry jerks, remember that there are nearly 900 Instances on lemmy (according to lemmy explorer). If mods ruin a community for fans, the fans can simply unsubscribe, move to the second (or third) most popular Instance and re-subscribe / re-create the forum there and the mods of the first Instance can’t do anything about it (because they voluntarily defederated). The distributed nature of lemmy means that the fans decide what forums are popular. It will be easy to see by sheer number of subscribers, which lemmy/Memes is the “real” one and which one is being run by the jerks.
This also means that corporations can’t screw up an entire social network (like what’s happening to Reddit right now). Reddit is basically a social network platform with tens of thousands of communities and ONE Instance. This makes it easy for a money-grubbing corporation to ruin things for everybody. However, if a company tries to ruin the most popular Instance on lemmy, everyone will just migrate to the second (or third) most popular Instance and the first one will wither and die.
I’m increasingly a used by the number of people that think beehaw defederated from more than, like, 3 lemmmy instances.
They didn’t create a walled garden. They just told a couple of sites they, in particular, were causing problems.
Actually, Beehaw has blocked a bunch more than 3 instances. https://beehaw.org/instances
And almost all of those are not Lemmy instances. That’s a Mastodon block list, and is overwhelmingly made up of Pleroma and Mastodon sites well known for shitty brhaviour.
Or did you not actually investigate the links?
I just looked at the list. The domain names alone paint a picture of far right/red pill/sketchy pedo sites… Nothing too surprising. Hey, if you’re into that stuff, you do you, but that block list is far, far, far from controversial
Communities are not things that can be infinitely fractured and divided without adverse consequences. Humans aren’t fungibility automatons and mere statistics.
The only reasonable design decision is to actively prevent the formation of “a biggest instance”. Concentration of power will always kill communities. I was in slashdot then Digg then Reddit, concentration of power always lead to abuse of power and leveraging that power against the users.